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		<description><![CDATA[Presentation (Update &#8211; 2012-03-27) In the first edition of Part 2: The Facts (2012-03-15), I sent out an SOS to a reader who would have the generosity to translate from German into English the five excerpts of Source 14. My friend Mark Waterinckx has found that special someone: Hildegard Alles, from the Netherlands, who has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4><strong>Presentation (Update &#8211; 2012-03-27)</strong></h4>
<h4><strong>In the first edition of </strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/15/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts/"><strong>Part 2: The Facts</strong></a></strong><strong> (2012-03-15), I sent out an SOS to a reader who would have the generosity to translate from German into English the five excerpts of </strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg"><strong>Source 14</strong></a></strong><strong>. My friend Mark Waterinckx has found that special someone: Hildegard Alles, from the Netherlands, who has been able to render into English Mr. O.’s difficult text with its very particular style and insight. Hildegard and Mark have all my gratitude.</strong></h4>
<h4>With these added excerpts of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg">Source 14</a> ( <strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/27/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts-update/#neun">1</a></strong> &#8211; <strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/27/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts-update/#Rom">2</a></strong> &#8211; <strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/27/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts-update/#alledem">3</a></strong> &#8211; <strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/27/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts-update/#annehmen">4</a></strong> &#8211; <strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/27/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts-update/#danken">5</a></strong> ), we have completed: <em>Medjugorje: The unbearable sadness of duping the faithful – 2) Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s fabrication concerning the father of a nun&#8217;s child – Part 2 – The facts. </em>I invite the readers to look attentively at each of those five excerpts and appreciate their gravity and profoundness.</h4>
<h4 style="text-align: center;">*****</h4>
<p>In the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/">previous article</a>, we have presented a <em>casus calomniae</em> with the help of an <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">original undisputed source published by its instigator</a>, Fr. René Laurentin. The mariologist released the results of his “<a title="Medjugorje: The unbearable sadness of duping the faithful – 2) Fr. Laurentin’s fabrication concerning the father of a nun’s child – Part 1 – The libel" href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#complete">deep investigation</a>” which “reveals” that</p>
<div id="attachment_1830" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1830" title="Fr._René_Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A-150x150.jpg" alt="Fr._René_Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fr. René Laurentin Ivry 1985-01-26 (photo: Louis Bélanger)</p></div>
<p><strong>-</strong><strong> </strong>t<strong>he nun/mother of the child “has made problems in three successive convents”;</strong></p>
<p><strong>-</strong><strong> </strong><strong>the “presumed father of the child quit the Franciscan Order and left for the USA where he married after reduction to the lay state”.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In doing so without referring to any substantiated source, Fr. Laurentin condemned the former Ordinary of Mostar</strong> for having “falsely” attributed the child’s paternity to another well known Franciscan, Fr. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_Ren%C3%A9_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_appara%C3%AEt-Elle_%C3%A0_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04.jpg">Tomislav Vlasic, who has been the spiritual guide</a> of the Medjugorje visionaries between 1981 and 1985.</p>
<p>As the integrity &#8212; not only of Mgr Pavao Zanic but also of some Medjugorje protagonists &#8212; is at stake, the unveiling of the necessary and valid documentation to shed the “light of truth” to the case becomes imperative.</p>
<p>I invite the readers who have not read the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/">preceding article</a> to do it first. They will find some answers to the following questions:</p>
<p>- How did I become <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#Herzegovina">acquainted</a> with the “T. affair” and what primary sources did I collect?</p>
<p>- What is Fr. René Laurentin’s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a> of the affair and his credibility &#8212; taking into account <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/10/20/medjugorje-the-grand-concealment-2-three-more-days-duplicity-rene-laurentin/">his precedent falsifications of historical documents</a>?</p>
<p>- Why do I suspect and claim that Laurentin’s version consists in the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#deceive">fabrication</a> of a story aimed at discrediting the Ordinary of Mostar?</p>
<p>- On what occasion did the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">former Bishop of Mostar conduct his own investigation on the affair</a> that led him to Rome &#8212; where Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger delivered primary sources to Mgr Zanic &#8212; and what results did he achieve?</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#November">Why do I publish</a> a “strictly confidential” document and excerpts of private documents?</p>
<div id="attachment_1920" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1920 " title="Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin-150x150.jpg" alt="Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Famous accusation against Fr. Vlasic: a hoax, according to Laurentin</p></div>
<p>In light of recent developments, I must add an important reason for the unveiling of primary sources, as there are renewed published attempts to “rehabilitate” Tomislav Vlasic in using Fr. Laurentin’s fabrication. With full knowledge of these attempts, Mr. Vlasic makes no effort to put the record straight. We feel the obligation to do it, with the help of his own writings.</p>
<p>In the following lines, I will invite you to examine with me the authenticity of primary sources after submitting most of them to you with their significant excerpts. These sources are essential for the reconstruction of the facts. At the same time, three main protagonists will reveal themselves: the father and the mother of the child, and the “adoptive grandfather”. How will they manage to keep the secret or to make/not-make the truth known? We will be witnessing an intense drama of human fragility, desperation, manipulation, ambition, whose sad consequences will be the subject of our next article.</p>
<h4><strong>The examination of the sources’ authenticity</strong></h4>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></p>
<p>Before going through the sources, I suggest that you first read the “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">report</a>” by the former Bishop of Mostar which will give you the chronological sense of the whole drama. That undisputed <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">source 8</a> is to be found in the archives of the Bishopric of Mostar. As I <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">explained in the preceding article</a> when presenting the English version of that “report”, the complete names of some protagonists are not revealed for the sake of discretion.</p>
<p>We are now ready to proceed with the examination of each source that is presented chronologically with its significant excerpts &#8212; most of them having been translated into English. I will be adding some clarifications and questions for an “active reading”… Remember that my clarifications and questions will be proposed with the supposition that you have at least glanced through Mgr Zanic’s “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">report</a>”.</p>
<p>My explicit answers as well as yours &#8212; if you submit comments &#8212; will be treated in the next article.</p>
<h4><strong>My sources with significant excerpts</strong></h4>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 style="text-align: center;" align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">Source 01</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_01_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1976-12-07.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1976-12-07 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK</a> [(nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_01_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1976-12-07_excerpt_02_concerning_father_of_child_croatian.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>[„Was den Vater des Kindes anlangt, kann niemand Dich zwingen, darüber Auskunft zu geben. Du sagst: Du hast jemand vorübergehend kennengelernt. Er hat gesagt, er wird Dich heiraten. Später ist er weggegangen und hat sich nicht mehr gemeldet. Am besten ist zu sagen, Du kennst ihn nicht und niemand kann Dich zwingen ihn zu nennen. Auch für das Kind ist es später am besten.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Concerning the father of the child, no one can force you to give any information about him. You say: you have met someone for a short time. He said he will marry you. Later he went away and disappeared. The best way is to say, you don&#8217;t know him and no one can force you to give his name. Also for the child, it will be better later on.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>Mr. O. has sent that typed letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: Fr. Vlasic’s “instructions” to M. are given 6 weeks before the birth of the child: How would you qualify them?</p>
<p>On page 2 of that long letter, Fr. Vlasic also formulates another “instruction” to M. as to how she should be dispensed from her vows. That typed letter includes the equivalent of five handwritten lines that give the possibility to identify the writer.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by Fr. Vlasic.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that letter?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">Source 02</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_01_Croatian.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1977-01-09 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK [(nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_02_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“The best thing is not to talk about the child. If you say anything about it only to one person, be it your own mother, or sister, or to anybody else, you said to the whole world. Besides, that will be of no help to you, just one more load to carry. On the contrary, you will have more merits and God’s blessings if you keep it to yourself, because in these difficult times you are going to save many sisters, Franciscans and Catholic world from disappointments. Then you are going to earn more reward than if you lived as a nun. You are going to be, indeed, like the Mother of God who accepted her special lot: she went with her child where it was necessary. God’s protection accompanied her, and that Child, even though it caused her crosses, became the source of the greatest glory to her. If you will embrace it in the same manner as She had done it, then there will not be the lack of joy and success in your life. And God will bless you forever. What is more, you do not have to tell it to anybody. You simply say that the child is yours, and let everybody else mind his own business. In this, you ought to be determined, since people are bad and they know how with their tongues to entangle the matters that nobody can disentangle.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_03_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 3</a></p>
<p><em>“N.B. Since Pervan</em> [Fr. Tomislav Pervan: added by LB] <em>has spread the news about you, a lot is being said about this house.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_04_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 4</a></p>
<p><em>“God! N.B. If you are going to speak about the father of the child, the best thing would be to say that last summer, he went to Australia, and that you will arrange everything over there. Once you are there, you will find your way around. You can “give” any name to the father in order to satisfy the curiosity of people. This is the best way to do it. But in this, you have to be consistent and firm.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that typed letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong></p>
<p>How would you qualify that kind of intervention towards M., 16 days before the birth of the child?</p>
<p>That typed letter includes the equivalent of eight handwritten lines that give the possibility to identify the writer. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by Fr. Vlasic.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that letter?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">Source 03</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1977-01-before the 25th &#8211; from Sr. RK (nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25) to Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">Excerpt 1</a></p>
<p><em>“My dear Tomo, I received your letter. Thanks for the prayers and good wishes. As far as my health is concerned as days are approaching, I am not bad. I am having headaches but this is from too much worrying. I went to be examined and was told that I will have the baby around the 10<sup>th</sup> of February. I got the dispensation from my vows. I went to confession. At present, everything is fine. I am praying to God that I die during childbirth since my life is so terrible. I don’t want it. Hundred times I would rather see myself dead than that someone of my folks sees me bearing an illegitimate child after 18 years of religious life. What is more, I have to lie that I had a baby with this and that. I don’t care for that kind of life that this old man has to take care of me.”</em> […] <em>“My Tomo, I brought shame upon myself. Everybody wants to be thought of as being honest. Not even an idiot will tell lies about himself. Just a bit is missing that I am completely insane.” </em>[…] <em>“As it is now, I am in need of everything.”</em> […] <em>“Who is going to take care of myself.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03_p2_I_will_not_reveal_your_identity.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“Besides, I am hiding from my relatives like a snake. Tomo, don’t aggravate yourself, I won’t reveal your identity to anybody – at least not for the time being. I will let you know if I reveal you to anybody. The other day, the old man started to inquire who is the father and if he was going to marry me. I told him that he would not marry me and that I won’t tell his name to anybody; and then he <a name="stopped"></a>stopped to question me anymore. Tomo, don’t be angry with me but you ought to understand me that it is not easy for me to cope with all this. You keep telling me to be like Mary. I understand that she was in a foreign land, but her Joseph was with her.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that handwritten letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions: </strong></p>
<p><strong>- </strong>How would you qualify the state in which M. finds herself at the moment of writing? Do you consider her response directly linked to Fr. Vlasic’s previous letter?</p>
<p>- If your answer is positive, would you agree that the authenticity of M’s letter is also linked to &#8212; or leads to &#8212; the authenticity of Fr. Vlasic’s previous letter?</p>
<p>- Does her “consolation” &#8212; “<em>Tomo, don’t aggravate yourself, I won’t reveal your identity to anybody</em>” constitute an admission/confirmation that “Tomo” &#8212; Fr. Tomislav Vlasic &#8212; is the father of the child to be born?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by M.</p>
<p><strong>Questions: </strong></p>
<p>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that 1½ page handwritten letter by M.?</p>
<p>What is your impression of the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">following opinion of MP</a>?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">Source 04</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">4</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_04_Letter-1981-12-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-an-almost-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1981-12-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost five-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_04_Letter-1981-12-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-an-almost-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p>“[Liebe M. Ende September habe ich Dir geschrieben. Ich erhielt keine Anrwort. Ich weiss nicht warum. Wie du siehst, nachdem Fr. Jozo Zovko eingesperrt ist, bin ich Pfarrer in Medjugorje geworden. Hier sind wir nur zwei, und tausend Menschen kommen, um Gospa zu beten. (Ich hoffe dass Du gehört hast, wie sich die Gospa hier erscheint.) Ich bin glücklich, dass ich hier bin, obwohl es viel Arbeit gibt un bin überlastet. Ich bin glücklich, dass ich ein Franziscaner bin und dass ich Gott diene.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Dear M. I wrote to you at the end of September. I received no response. I don&#8217;t know why. As you see, after Fr. Jozo Zovko has been put in prison, I have become the parish priest of Medjugorje. We only are two priests, here, and thousand people are coming to pray to the Gospa. (I hope that you have heard that the Madonna is appearing here.) I am happy to be here, even if there is much work to do and I am overloaded. I am happy to be a Franciscan and to serve God.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. However, he considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”].</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>Now that you know what Fr. Laurentin knew, would you agree with his statement that the translated excerpt of this letter is “insignificant”?</p>
<p>Please read again the two statements made by Fr. Vlasic in the said letter:</p>
<p>1) “I have become the parish priest of Medjugorje.”</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If one acknowledges</p>
<blockquote><p>— Mgr Zanic’s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">statement</a> in his “report”: “<em>In 1981, Fr. Tomislav Vlasic came to Medjugorje without any approval</em>.”</p>
<p>— and the present Ordinary’s <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=931">declaration</a> (see note 6, at the bottom of the page): &#8220;<em>T. Vlasic in a letter to M. K., December 15, 1981, writes from Medjugorje: “</em>As you see, after the arrest of Fr. Jozo Zovko, I am the parish priest at Medjugorje<em>“. It wasn&#8217;t true.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- How would you qualify Fr. Vlasic’s statement to M.?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- Do you agree with Fr. Laurentin’s appreciation that it is an “insignificant” statement?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- How would you qualify the concealment of that statement?</p>
<p>2) As to Fr. Vlasic’s other statement: “<em>I am happy to be a Franciscan</em>”, what would be your own appreciation of it, considering some “hopes” M. could have entertained of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/15/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts/#stopped">being with “her Joseph</a>” who would share the responsibility of taking care of their child?</p>
<p>What is your appreciation of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a>’s statement that <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that handwritten letter is from Fr. Vlasic?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop_r.jpg">Source 05</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop_r.jpg">5</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_05_Letter-1982-05-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1982-05-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a five-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. He considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”], and he seems to be right, except for the benign reproach addressed to M., here as in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">source 4</a>, of failing to answer his letters.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">Source 06</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_06_Letter-1983-05-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-six-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1983-05-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a six-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_06_excerpt_02_r.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>[„Ich habe mich gänzlich unserer Gospa ausgehändigt. Ich wünsche mein Leben zu leben.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I have totally abandoned myself to our Gospa. I wish to live my life.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. However, he considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”].</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>Now that you know what Fr. Laurentin knew, would you agree with his statement that the translated segment of this letter is “insignificant”?</p>
<p>Please read again the two statements made by Fr. Vlasic in the said letter: <em>&#8220;I have totally abandoned myself to our Gospa. I wish to live my life.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Considering the importance of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">source 3</a>, and its significance, what could be a plausible interpretation of the said statements?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">Source 07</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">7</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1984-11-?? &#8211; apparently from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a seven-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar &#8211; excerpt 1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“It seems to me that it is better that I tell you, because of our dear God and of our faith. If I wouldn’t say, I would consider it to be a sin. Our dear Saviour has given me strength to make everything known to you. <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">I bore a child.</span></em> [scratched in original letter: remark by LB] <em>I worked in Zagreb before I left for Germany. I became acquainted with Rev. Tomislav Vlasic in Zagreb who is, at present, in Medjugorje. Please, forgive me Father Bishop since I want to tell that I had a child, a son, by Rev. Tomislav Vlasic. Ever since then I am accompanied by so many miseries. I had to go to Germany to work there and also to leave the milieu where it was not easy for me.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a></p>
<p><em>“My son T. is already a big boy and goes to school. Christian family without a father is a family where Christian love is lacking and education without parents. I do not know what I am going to tell my son T. since his father Tomislav does not communicate with us lately. And T. knows everything. Dear Father Bishop,…”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a></p>
<p><em>« … what am I supposed to do that my son experiences the love of both parents? I am praying all the time to dear Saviour that my son might obtain the help from his father. I beg you that you find a way and that you tell Tomislav to help his son T. in his life so that he may finish school and that we put him on the Christian track. With Christ’s love I am kindly greeting you. M. I beg you, Most Reverend, that you speak to Father Vlasic and that you, in your conversation, only mention the names M and T.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>That handwritten <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#about">letter has been received by Mgr Pavao Zanic</a> in November 1984. It is highly probable that it has been transmitted to Cardinal Ratzinger for examination. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Mgr Zanic and has also concealed its content to his readers.</p>
<p>Characteristics of that “mysterious” letter raise some <a name="doubts"></a>doubts about the identity of its sender:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- The letter is not dated and is signed only by M’s first name, without her address.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- In a handwritten note at the end of that letter (p. 2), Mgr Zanic writes that the envelope has been stamped in a post office at the border of Denmark.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- The content, which corresponds to facts, is not put into question, as we have noticed in the examination of the previous documents. It seems, however, that the size of the writing or calligraphy is different from the one observed in source <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, and the one in sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a> and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a> whose authenticity is assured, as we shall see.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- As witnessed personally by Mgr Zanic, M. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#address">denied</a> that she had written that letter. That denial left the Bishop <a name="sceptic"></a>sceptic:</p>
<blockquote><p>“With the help of my priests in Germany and police I found her in S., but while I was inve­stigating the matter in Hercegovina, her tutors had persuaded her to deny that she wrote the letter to the Bishop. <strong>I seemingly accepted that</strong>…” (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">Mgr Zanic to MP</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Because of that controversy, I initiated a double-blind quantitative grapho-analytic investigation on the four copies of the letters written by M. that I had at my disposition. The <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_Handwriting-comparison-analysis-1987-05-22-of-four-documents-sources-3-7-9-10-written-by-MK.jpg">report</a> was positive: similarities were observed in the slope of writing, calligraphic qualities and traits. “<em>The size of the writing is different but this can be </em><em>linked to the state of mind in which these letters w</em><em>ere written.</em>” However, taking into account that the grapho-analyst had copies instead of original documents, and that grapho-analysis is not an “exact” science &#8212; and in our case, submitted to one expert only &#8212; I have to suspend my “judgement” on a “convincing” material proof.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>- As the content of that letter seems to confirm the information revealed in the previous letters &#8212; from M. and Fr. Vlasic &#8212; should we simply ignore M’s denial of being its author?</p>
<p>- If, in any shape or form, directly or indirectly, M. is the author of that letter, what could explain that she asked for the Bishop’s help?</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">Mr. P. submitted to me his own answer</a> to the previous question. Do you agree with his interpretation?</p>
<p>- If M’s denial is truthful and not “forced”:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- who could have written that letter and incited the Bishop to visit M. in Germany, and why?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- does M’s denial invalidate the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">letter she wrote to “Tomo” in January 1977</a>, before giving birth to her son?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">Source 08</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">Report &#8211; 1985-11-?? &#8211; (private and strictly confidential) from the Ordinariate of Mostar</a> (Bp. PZ) [see English translation <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">here</a>] I have left Fr. Ivo Sivric’s dictated translation (1986) untouched.</p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that “report” to his readers</a> but has concealed its specific content in order to be able to submit his own fabrication.</p>
<p>I suppose that, at this stage of looking at the sources, the readers will have gone through Mgr Zanic’s “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">report</a>”.</p>
<p>We remember that the Bishop of Mostar made the following controversial statement:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Then, two Franciscan fathers of Herzegovina went to the U.S. to ask the former Fr. P. to take the responsibility upon himself for the fatherhood of the boy. P. was in Zagreb with Fr. Tomislav when Sr. R. became pregnant and they wanted to put the responsibility upon him…”</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, Mgr Zanic doesn’t mention the source of that information. Only one year later, in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">his letter to M.P., the Bishop</a> refers to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">his two sources</a>: Mr. O. and the Franciscan Provincial. Mgr Zanic asked Mr. P., in that same letter, to confirm his “non-fatherhood” of M’s child and the visit of the said Franciscans. Mr. P. did not answer the Bishop’s letter.</p>
<p>According to Mr. P, Mgr Zanic’s allegation on the Franciscans&#8217; visit is untrue. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">In his long letter to me, Mr. P.</a> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“He [the Bishop] says that Fr. Tomislav has confessed his fatherhood before him and the Provincial, and that the Provincial told him about two Franciscans who allegedly went to America to ask me to accept the fatherhood. I talked to the former Provincial, and I did not get the impression that this was true.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I could not get any documentation to corroborate one or the other version. It looks like a “he said, he said”, which is not reliable. A suspension of judgment would be appropriate. It must be said, however, that an answer by Mr. P. to the Bishop’s letter would have helped to clarify the said allegation.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">Source 09</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1985-11-26 &#8211; from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p>“<em>Most Reverend Father Bishop, Ever since you visited here, since then this old man won&#8217;t leave me alone. I am serving him already nine years. He told me that you came to inquire who is the father of my son. He is suspecting a priest over there</em> [in Yugoslavia] <em>and he is writing letters all over. He is also writing to you, too. I am a Catholic, I was in the convent for 18 years, and I know what means to be a priest, and I cannot allow that something like that is said against them. I beg you as a Bishop and a priest that you would not believe that grandpa of 95 years of age who is feeble-minded. He is not aware how one can destroy someone&#8217;s reputation and cause a scandal&#8230;</em> [a sentence hard to make out: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric - 1986] <em>I am going to tell you what is all about. I am here nine years and serve him. But he did not obtain for me social insurance, and I am granted a permit to live in Germany and to work since the period of nine years is quite long. He did not care about me &#8230;</em> [it cannot be figured out: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric – 1986]&#8230; <em>he wants me to continue to be with him, but I won&#8217;t stay here because some lies are spread around. That&#8217;s the secret between God and myself</em> [who is the father of M's son: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric - 1986), <em>and nobody else knows. I am leaving him and I will get a job. I gave a notice to the grandpa.</em>”</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>“<em>Most Reverend, I maintain that you will accept what I have said and not what other people are saying who love to gossip. Take this into consideration because of the Church since in nowadays the world is full of evil and you know that. I am wishing you happy and joyous Christmas, please, keep me in your prayers, with sincere greetings. M.</em>”</p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Mgr Zanic and has also concealed its content to his readers.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>If you confer some credibility to the authenticity of sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop.jpg">4</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop.jpg">5</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a>:</p>
<p>- how do you understand M’s position in that particular letter?</p>
<p>- what is your interpretation of some of M’s “justifications”? [<em> I know what means to be a priest…--- how one can destroy someone's reputation and cause a scandal...</em>]<em> </em></p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">Source 10</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1985-12-26 from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Fr. Ivan Dugandzic, (Fr. ID) Franciscan member of the Diocesan Commission</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_01.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Dear fra Ivan, Here I am answering your questions which the Most Reverend brought up during the session of the Commission against me. First I did not write that letter at all which supposedly had been written in 1983 and which the Bishop had shown to you. He himself knows that that letter is not mine for he came to me last spring in S. The same letter he showed to me, too. I said: Most Reverend, that&#8217;s not my letter nor is it my handwriting. The two of us alone spoke about it face to face. I told: Most Reverend, do you believe that that letter is not mine? He answered: I do believe. And now once again I hear that he said that that letter was mine. Besides, he asked me not to talk about it at all, and he promised that he would not talk either, and he did not talk. It hurts me very badly that a Bishop can spread around a lie against me. And I was unable to imagine that he can say something like it. God is my witness, and I am willing to take an oath before anybody, even on the cross, that I never either wrote or said to anybody. I never asked a help from anybody for my child and I will never ask. I never said to anybody who is the father of my child. That&#8217;s my private matter about which I am not willing to talk nor do I allow anybody else over there to talk about it. Fra Ivan, tell Most Reverend once more that he hurt me in soul with those wrong words. And my old man whom I have served nine years and whom I respected. When I have heard that he also behind my back writes against me that untruth hit me so hard that I left him right away.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>&#8220;I went away from him. Those letters that he sent to Cardinal Ratzinger, everything was behind my back. I knew nothing, nor did I know which letters were involved, nor who wrote those letters. You believe more the old man of 95 years who is spreading a lie around. He does not care either about the Church or the priests. Ask Bishop to show you my letter which I wrote to him November 26, 1985; tell him also that my soul hurts me because of the lie which is being spread all over the world against me. I would end with this: if I have offended anybody, I ask for pardon, in the same manner let those who offended me to apologize. My greetings to the Bishop and all on the Commission; and if they want to do something for me, let them pray for me. And I will be grateful to them for it, I am not asking for anything more. That is best for me. MK&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Fr. Dugandzic and has also concealed most of its content to his readers. The recipient of the partial content of that specific letter is falsely identified as the Bishop of Mostar. [See more on the “anatomy” of the fabrication in the next article: “The perfidy and its consequences”.]</p>
<p>M’s letter contains some factual errors:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- the letter in question [<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">source 7</a>], not dated, has been posted in November 1984 &#8212; <a href="http://wp.me/pX3iq-qf/#doubts">according to the Bishop’s written testimony</a>&#8212;, not 1983;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- following the reception of that letter, the Bishop visited M. in S., in November 1984 (according to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_04.jpg">Mr. O.’s written testimony</a>), not in the Spring of 1985.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>If one confers some credibility to the authenticity of sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop.jpg">4</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop.jpg">5</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a>:</p>
<p>- Can one explain why M. has been asked by a Franciscan colleague of Fr. Tomislav Vlasic to answer some “delicate” questions in writing concerning the identity and behaviour of Fr. Vlasic?</p>
<p>- Did Fr. Dugandzic have a legitimate mandate from the Commission to require some targeted answers from M.?</p>
<p>- If Fr. Dugandzic had a legitimate mandate from the Commission to enlighten its members on that subject, why has Fr. Tomislav Vlasic not been asked to answer some “delicate” questions in writing by the same colleague concerning his own correspondence with M. since 1976 and his behaviour towards M. in that period of time?</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_11_pop.jpg">Source 11</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_11_pop.jpg">11</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">Brochure in French released by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-01</a> (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_B_p_6.jpg">p. 6</a>)</p>
<p>We have already presented the first phase of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Source 12</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">12</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">Booklet in French authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-07</a> (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_50.jpg">50</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_51.jpg">51</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">52</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_53.jpg">53</a>)</p>
<p>We have already presented the second phase of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">Source 13</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">13</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1986-10-31 &#8211; from Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar (Bp. PZ) to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p><em>“Dear P.! We don’t know each other, but there is something that both of us should be concerned about, and that is the child of ex-nun RK. </em></p>
<p><em>I am sending you a part of correspondence what Cardinal Ratzinger gave me. That and much more was mailed to him by old A-M O. with whom they accommodated pregnant M. </em></p>
<p><em>In November 1984, she wrote me a letter on which there was just a mark M. With the help of my priests in Germany and police I found her in S., but while I was inve­stigating the matter in Hercegovina, her tutors had persuaded her to deny that she wrote the letter to the Bishop. I seemingly accepted that, stayed there for dinner, saw little T. (looks the same as Fr. Tomislav). </em></p>
<p><em>I wasn&#8217;t telling anyone about that. Afterwards, the old O. asked himself why the Bishop was coming to M.? I had not told him anything. He translated some letters photocopied long time ago, and he found out that M. was a nun, that the father of the child is Fr. Tomislav Vlasic. </em></p>
<p><em>Fr. Tomislav had pleaded guilty before me and the Provincial that he is the father of the child. Before that he did confess the same to one of the members of the Commission, but after that, in front of some, he is denying, and in front of others, he forgives to all &#8220;calumniators&#8221;.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“Everything is clear, but now I&#8217;m sending you a photocopy where Laurentin writes that the child is yours, even though he isn&#8217;t mentioning your name. </em></p>
<p><em>I wish you would write to me about the events from 1976, when the drama was taking place in Zagreb, and would you send me a statement that you are not little T.’s father. </em></p>
<p><em>Old O. writes, and the Provincial is telling me that when this was discovered, two Franciscans again went to you in America to persuade you to accept the fatherhood. </em></p>
<p><em>M. and T. were transferred in A. so that they can be better taken care of. Old O. loved little T. a lot. From what I hear he bought them an apartment in Zagreb, and again he asked me to help them with both Provincials.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Mr. M.P. (1988).</p>
<p>We have already clarified the untruth concerning the purported visit of two Franciscans to Mr. P. aimed at “persuading the former Franciscan to accept T.’s fatherhood”, which Mr. P. denied.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg">Source 14</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg">14</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1986-12-01 &#8211; from A-M.O to members of a student help organization he founded.</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_05.jpg">excerpt 5</a></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded.jpg">Excerpt 01</a></strong></p>
<p>[Am 21.Dezember 1985 schritt Frau M. nachmittags 4 Uhr wortlos an mir vorüber, drehte sich auf der Gartentreppe überraschend um und rief mir zu: "Vater, danke für alles!"</p>
<p>Das war wie eine Stimme des Hl. Geistes, wie ein Lichtstrahl aus den Sternen des bevorstehenden Weihnachtsfestes, vor dem ich bangvoll stand. Genau wie damals M. vor neun Jahren, bis auf den Boden zerstört, wie ein Wurm zertreten in den Staub, mit ihrem ungeborenen Kind, das sie damals noch als fremde Last ansah. Und denen beiden ich und mein gutes altes Haus Vater, Beschützer, Heimat und Herberge wurden.</p>
<p>Damals fragte ich mich: Sind diese <a name="neun"></a>neun Jahre und dieser Satz, herausgepreßt, wie aus Trotz, daß es der begleitende Franziskaner, ihr Beichtvater und Berater, beschämt hören mußte, Wirklichkeit?]</p>
<p><em>On December 21, 1985 Mrs. M. walked past me without saying a word and surprisingly she turned around on the garden stairs and called out to me: &#8220;Father, thanks for everything!&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>It was like a voice from the Holy Spirit, like a beam from the stars of the upcoming Christmas, which I awaited fearfully. It was exactly like </em><em>nine years ago, M. totally devastated, like a worm crushed in the dust, with her unborn child, which at that time she still regarded as a strange burden and to both of whom I myself and my good old house became Father, guardian, home and refuge.</em></p>
<p><em>At that time I asked myself: is this real, these nine years and this sentence, squeezed out like in defiance, so that the accompanying Franciscan, her confessor and counselor, ashamedly had to hear it?</em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 02</a></strong></p>
<p>[An diesen beiden verhängnisvollen Daten des 21. und 26. Dezembers 1985 beginnen mein und Ms. Leben Schicksal und Zeichen des Eingreifens ewiger Mächte zu werden. Sie erkennt nicht, wie ich, in dieser dunklen Wolke des Geschehens zwischen 21. und 26. Dezember 1985 das Menschenleben, Familien und Institutionen der Kirche bedrohende Schicksal aus jener verbrecherischen Untat, der sie und ihr Kind vor zehn Jahren zum Opfer gefallen waren. Damals - ehe sie Zagreb verließ - hatte das Wellen geschlagen bis nach <a name="Rom"></a>Rom; bis die Strategie des Bösen glaubte, mit dem Mantel des Schweigens und Vertuschens sei alles "ins Reine gebracht".]</p>
<p><em>On these two fateful dates of December 21 and 26, 1985 mine and M&#8217;s life begin to become destiny and sign of the intervention by eternal powers.</em></p>
<p><em>She does not, as I do, realize in this dark cloud of events between 21 and 26 December 1985 the threatening consequences for people, families and institutions of the Church arising from that criminal deed she and her child were victim of ten years ago.</em></p>
<p><em>At that time, &#8211; before she left Zagreb – it had caused quite a stir up to Rome, till the strategy of evil thought that by drawing a veil of silence and cover up over it, they would come out clean.</em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_03.jpg">Excerpt 03</a></strong></p>
<p>[M. schrieb zur selben Zeit ihres wogenden Gewissens und im Sturm ihrer Schuldgefühle jenen einzigartigen Brief, in dem sie vor Gott und ihrem Gewissen mit dem Zerstörer ihres Lebens und ihrer Christusliebe, zuerst noch Gefangene seiner Verführungskunst, dann aber "von Gottes Atemsturm" erfaßte "Magdalena" zu Umkehr und Heilung für sich und ihr Kind bereit und darum für viele Jahre zurückgeholt an Gottes Herz war. Hätten wir diesen Brief und seine Bekenntnisse nicht, so wüßten wir nichts über die innere geistige und geistliche Situation und die überzeugenden providenziellen Möglichkeiten vor ihrem Sündenfall. Jeder Satz darin, richtig gesetzt und durchleuchtet aus dem Glauhen und der Erfahrung liest sich wie ein apokalyptischer Donnerschlag im Gericht Gottes:</p>
<p>"Da muß ich lügen, daß ich das Kind habe von diesem und jenem..."</p>
<p>"Auch der Irre lügt nicht gegen sich selbst. Mir fehlt dazu nur ein wenig... "</p>
<p>"Jeder Mensch braucht seine Rechtschaffenheit... Ich muß mich verbergen wie eine Schlange..."</p>
<p>(Was aber hat dieser Mann mit ihr gemacht?) - (Da sagt er seelenruhig zu ihr:) "... Sprichst Du: Heilige Dein Leben wie Maria!" (Du hast leicht reden.) "...Sie hatte in der Fremde ihren Joseph", (der ihre Jungfräulichkeit und Christentreue beschützt hat. Was hast Du getan?)</p>
<p>(Trotz <a name="alledem"></a>alledem - er hat sie noch stark in seiner Gewalt als Hörige einer vorgetäuschten "Liebe von Gott" und sie sagt:) "Tomo, ärgere Dich nicht zu sehr: Ich werde Dich nicht verraten..." aber schon im Gewissen unruhig, fügt sie hinzu: "... wenigstens jetzt nicht."]</p>
<p><em>When her troubled conscience and her sense of right and wrong caught her in a storm, M. wrote that unique letter, in which she before God and her conscience, first still captive of the powers of seduction of the destroyer of her life and her love for Christ, but then, like &#8220;Magdalena&#8221; seized by a &#8220;storm of God’s breath&#8221;, was ready for conversion and healing for herself and her child and thus for many years was retrieved to God’s Heart. Would we not have had this letter and its confession, we would not know anything about her inner mental and spiritual situation and the convincing providential possibilities before her fall. Every sentence therein, correctly placed and screened and based on Faith and understanding, reads like an apocalyptic thunderbolt of God’s judgment:</em></p>
<p>&#8220;I have to lie that I have the child from one or the other.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Also the insane does not lie against himself. For me it doesn&#8217;t need much to do it myself…&#8221;. [<em>Remark by L.B. = the original Croatian handwritten text by M. seems to be "stronger" as translated to me by Fr. Ivo Sivric in 1986: "Not even an idiot will tell lies about himself. Just a bit is missing that I am completely insane."</em>]</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone needs respectability. … I must hide like a snake… &#8221;</p>
<p><em>But what has this man done with her? -  Calmly he tells her: </em>&#8220;&#8230; Sanctify your life like Mary!&#8221; <em> That is easy for you to say. Away from home she had her Joseph, who protected her virginity and Christian faith. What have you done?</em></p>
<p><em>But In spite of everything – he still holds her in his grip as captive of a feigned &#8220;Love of God&#8221; and she says</em>: <em>&#8220;</em>Tomo, don&#8217;t be too annoyed: I will not expose you&#8230;&#8221; <em>but already bothered by her conscience she adds: </em>&#8220;at least not now&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_04.jpg">Excerpt 04</a></strong></p>
<p>[Das war Umkehr, die Gott segnete über das Geständnis bei.der Narkosegeburt hinaus und sieben jahre Frieden in unserem Haus. Dann verfiel sie wieder dem Einfluß dieses Mannes, der das Alibi, das er der Mutter seines Kindes und den Mitbrüdern und Oberen abgehandelt hatte, als Freikarte für die Welt und selbst drei Jahre für Medjugorje als Organisator und charismatischer Werber unter milionen von betrogenen Pilgern in Kirche und Welt ausnutzte, bis der Bischof ihn im September 1984 vorerst seines Postens enthob.</p>
<p>Warum konnte das geschehen? Warum belog M. im November 1984 ihren Bischof, als er uns besuchte, um die Wahrheit über den Vater zu erfahren? Warum schwor sie einen Eid, daß sie ihn nie nennen und keine Rente für sich und das Kind <a name="annehmen"></a>annehmen werde? Wer hat ihr gesagt, daß sie mit diesem "Heldentum" der Lüge und des Verzichtens den "Frieden" (Friedhofsruhe des Schweigens) über alles Geschehen legen könne?]</p>
<p><em>That was a conversion, which God blessed beyond the confession and caesarian birth and seven years of peace in our house. And then she succumbed again to the influence of this man, who exploited the alibi, he had obtained from the mother of his child and from his co-brothers and superiors, as a free ticket for the world and even three years as organizer and charismatic promoter of Medjugorje under millions of mislead pilgrims in Church and world, until the bishop in September 1984 removed him from his post for the time being.</em></p>
<p><em>Why could that take place? Why did M. in November 1984 lie to her bishop, when he visited us in order to find out the truth about the father? Why did she swear an oath that she would never reveal his name and that she would not accept compensation for herself and the child? Who told her, that with this &#8220;heroism&#8221; of lie and rejection &#8220;peace&#8221;, (the silent peace of the graveyard), could be spread over everything that has happened</em>?</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_05.jpg">Excerpt 05</a></strong></p>
<p>[Liebe M ! Heute schreibe ich Dir als Vater, der heute noch genau so wie in den vergangenen Jahren nur Euer Bestes wollte:</p>
<p>Lasse Dich in dieser Entscheidung von keinem Menschen irreführen! Glaube mir! Du allein entscheide aus Deinem Gewissen, vor Gott und der Gospa! Ich bete für Euch: Es geht um Wahrheit und Gerechtigkeit. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Mache Frieden mit Gott für Dich und Dein Kind!</span> Keine Lüge mehr über die Vaterschaft! Schreibe dem Bischof: "Er ist der Vater!  Schreibe P. Du*** : Ich nehme Eid zurück! Schreibe an Generalat in Rom: Er ist der Vater. Dann hast Du Frieden im Herzen und vor Gott und Menschen. Dein Kind hat den ehrlichen Mutter- und Vaternamen. Er allein hat die Kraft nicht dazu. Später wird er und alle anderen Dir <a name="danken"></a>danken. Nur Wahrheit macht frei!]</p>
<p>***(Pater Dugandzic: Bemerkung von LB)</p>
<p><em>Dear M.! Today I write to you as father, who today, just as the years before, only wanted the best for you. </em></p>
<p><em>Don&#8217;t let anybody mislead you in your decision! Believe me! You alone can decide in conscience before God and the Gospa! I pray for you. It&#8217;s all about truth and justice. Make peace with God for yourself and your child! No lies anymore about the fatherhood! Write to the bishop:</em> <em>&#8220;He is the father&#8230;&#8221;.</em> <em>Write to P.Du.***:&#8221;I renounce the oath&#8221;!</em> <em>Write to the Superior of the Franciscans in Rome: &#8220;He is the father&#8230;&#8221;.</em> <em>Then you will have peace of heart before God and mankind. Then your child will have the real name of his mother and father. He alone does not have the strength to do it. Later he will thank you and all the others will thank you. Only the truth makes free!</em></p>
<p>***(Fr. Dugandzic: remark by L.B.)</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_pop.jpg">Source 15</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_pop.jpg">15</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_Handwriting-comparison-analysis-1987-05-22-of-four-documents-sources-3-7-9-10-written-by-MK.jpg">Handwriting comparison analysis &#8211; 1987-05-22 &#8211; of four documents </a>(sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>,<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg"> 7</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a>) written by Sr. RK/MK (mother of T.)</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/15/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts/#sceptic">above</a> for the presentation of that document.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_pop.jpg">Source 16</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_pop.jpg">16</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_cover.jpg">Booklet in English authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL)</a>, 1987 (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_40.jpg">40</a>-<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_41.jpg">41</a>, partial translation of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">12</a>)</p>
<p>That English partial translation has been presented in the context of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s complete French <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_17_pop.jpg">Source 17</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_17_pop.jpg">17</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer.jpg">Transcribed notes &#8211; 1988-08-04 &#8211; of a telephone conversation between Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL) and Louis Bélanger (LB)</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_02.jpg">page 2</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_03.jpg">page 3</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_04.jpg">page 4</a></p>
<p>That document will be presented in the next article together with the discussion concerning the &#8220;anatomy&#8221; of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s fabrication.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">Source 18</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">18</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_Letter-1988-08-31-from-Louis-B%C3%A9langer-to-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1988-08-31 &#8211; from Louis Bélanger to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</a></p>
<p>Mr. M.P. is a former Franciscan &#8220;accused&#8221; by Fr. Laurentin of being the father of M&#8217;s child. He used to share the house of a small Franciscan community, in Zagreb, for some years in the 70&#8242;s, together with Fr Tomislav Vlasic and Sr R.K. who became the mother of a child. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Mr. P. has kindly accepted to answer my written questions </a>sent to him in 1988 and gave his permission for the publication of his answers, as confirmed in the excerpts attached to the source.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">Source 19</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">19</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1988-09-15 &#8211; from MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.) to Louis Bélanger (LB)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">excerpt 1</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_05.jpg">excerpt 5</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">excerpt 6</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_07.jpg">excerpt 7</a> - <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-19-Letter-1988-09-15-from-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.A.-to-Louis-Belanger-excerpt-08.jpg">excerpt 8</a></p>
<p><strong>Intro:</strong></p>
<p>Dear Mr. Belanger, [...] I&#8217;ll try to answer your questions as best as I can. I&#8217;ll try to be objective. I don&#8217;t have any interest taking one or another side. The truth is that I don&#8217;t believe in the apparitions in Medjugorje and Fr. Tomislav Vlasic and M.K. were my friends and they are still my friends. What I&#8217;m about to say is what I think based on what I know. My only interest in this matter is that the truth comes out. If you want to publish any of my remarks, feel free to do so. I&#8217;m sorry that my English is not very good, so if you quote me, please correct my English. [Permission to publish reiterated by M.P. to LB in an email dated 2012-01-23, twenty-three years later...]</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">Excerpt 1</a></strong>:</p>
<p>Yes, You are right! There is not any allusion in all the correspondence that Fr. Vlasic would wish to be dispensed from his vows.  He is only helping M. to get her dispense from her vows. In my opinion, he doesn&#8217;t have the courage to do the same, I mean to leave the Order.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></strong>:</p>
<p>What would be my own version concerning T&#8217;s father&#8217;s identity? If you had asked me that question before I found out about the &#8220;T. affair&#8221;, I wouldn&#8217;t even have tried to answer that, because that would have been very hard for anyone.</p>
<p>Knowing Fr. Tomislav for a long time, I would have never thought that he would do something like that. When I was in Zagreb at that time, when M. left us, we used to discuss many times who could be the father. We never mentioned the possibility that he could be the father.</p>
<p>In the house where we lived, there were two nuns: M.K. and K.L., and there were three of us: K.G., Tomislav Vlasic and me. I did not think of Tomislav as being the father. I knew that I was not, and I knew that M. had never liked K. G.</p>
<p>Furthermore, M. did not go out, except to the store, and not even often. Yes, there were times that some other priests would be in the house, but they would be a day or two and leave. So, as you see, it wasn’t easy to answer that question at that time.</p>
<p>Now, after I read all of this correspondence between M. and Tomislav, her letter to the Bishop, there is no doubt in my mind that Fr. Tomislav is the father of M&#8217;s child.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">Excerpt 3</a></strong>:</p>
<p>What do I think about the authenticity of those letters? Could they be forged? I know M&#8217;s and Tomislav&#8217;s handwriting, and I&#8217;m very confident the letters are not forged. It is possible that one could forge one letter, but not all those series of letters. I can&#8217;t imagine one would have interest to do that. I firmly believe that the letters are M&#8217;s and Tomislav&#8217;s.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_04.jpg">Excerpt 4</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: Could you confirm me (as you did on telephone) that Laurentin has never got in touch with you to verify that “<em>the presumed father of the child quit the order and went to the United States, where he is married after being reduced to the lay state.”</em>?]</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: No! Fr. Laurentin never got in touch with me.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_05.jpg">Excerpt 5</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: Concerning your knowledge of M., Laurentin writes &lt;<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Source 12</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>&gt;: « <em>Il est vrai qu’une religieuse franciscaine croate, dont la présence avait fait problème dans trois couvents successifs…</em> ». Do you have some information that would help to confirm or deny that M’s “presence in three successive convents had created problems”?]</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: I don’t know where Fr. Laurentin gets his information from? If he accuses me of being the father of M&#8217;s child, without any hard evidence, then he can accuse M. of anything he wants. I never heard that M. had created problems in any convent. That is not enough to deny Laurentin&#8217;s story, but Herzegovina is very small and if something like that had happened, these things would have been usually known soon after.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">Excerpt 6</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: If you accept the authenticity of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">Document 7</a> (purported letter from M. to Bishop Zanic), how would you explain that she changed her mind as confirmed in her letter to Bishop Zanic dated Nov. 26 1985? &lt;<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">Source 9</a>&gt;</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: Why did M. change her mind? That’s easy to explain. […] When everything was done, M. found herself alone in [Germany] without knowing the language, with the old man whom she never knew, with her own child whom she had to take care of, not knowing how. That was a very hard situation for her. Tomislav would write from time to time, but that was not enough for her. She had to talk to someone, but she was very isolated from anyone. In one of her letters to Tomislav, she asked him to send some toothpaste from Zagreb. So, as you see, she felt like being imprisoned. I think she was happy for having her own child, but at the same time, she was very afraid of how to nurse him alone. Finally, she couldn&#8217;t take it any more!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_07.jpg">Excerpt 7</a></strong>:</p>
<p>About Fr. Tomislav being manipulative. As a person, I don&#8217;t think he was manipulative. But, reading his letters to M., one would conclude that he is manipulative. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he was manipulative of visionaries, because I think they were afraid of the situation in which they found themselves after claiming to see the Madonna.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-19-Letter-1988-09-15-from-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.A.-to-Louis-Belanger-excerpt-08.jpg">Excerpt 8</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[The Bishop writes to me] that Fr. Tomislav has confessed his fatherhood before him and the Provincial, and that the Provincial told him about two Franciscans who allegedly went to America to ask me to accept the fatherhood. I talked to the former Provincial and I did not get the impression that this was true.</p>
<p>[Remark by LB: we have to remember my discussion of that point in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">Source 8</a>.  In <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">his letter to M.P., the Bishop</a> refers to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">his two sources</a>: Mr. O. and the Franciscan Provincial. Mgr Zanic asked Mr. P., in that same letter, to confirm his “non-fatherhood” of M’s child and the visit of the said Franciscans. Mr. P. did not answer the Bishop’s letter. According to primary sources, particularly sources 1, 2 and 3, there is no reasonable doubt that Tomislav Vlasic is the father of M's child. Mr. P's "impression" of an untruth concerns the alleged plan of sending a "delegation" of two Franciscans to ask him to accept the fatherhood of M's child. Mr. P. asked the former Provincial --- one of the two sources of the Bishop --- and he got the "impression" that there had been no such plan. No verification has been made with the Bishop's second source, Mr. O.. This is why I pointed out that a suspension of judgment pertaining to that alleged "plan" seems to be appropriate.]</p>
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<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4><strong>Conclusion</strong></h4>
<p>The expression that comes to my mind in trying to put a “provisional” end to the revealing display of those primary sources is “perfidy”: the act or fact of violating the trust or confidence of another (<a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/perfidy">M-W</a>).</p>
<p>The spectre of perfidy is haunting the history of Medjugorje. How sad is the <em>constat</em> that the trust of faithful and <em>bona fide </em>researchers has been and still is betrayed by unscrupulous and irresponsible communicators, journalists, pastors, historians whose ends justify the means.</p>
<p>Now that we have examined the facts that shed some light on a human drama and a disastrous fabrication attempting to conceal it, we will try, in the next and last article of that series, to draw the consequences of such a perfidy.</p>
<p>Your remarks/comments/critiques are welcome. They will be moderated and should be identified properly with a valid name linked to a valid IP.</p>
<p>With my cordial greetings,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are renewed published attempts to “rehabilitate” Tomislav Vlasic in using Fr. Laurentin’s fabrication. With full knowledge of these attempts, Mr. Vlasic makes no effort to put the record straight. We feel the obligation to do it, with the help of his own writings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4><strong>Presentation</strong></h4>
<p>In the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/">previous article</a>, we have presented a <em>casus calomniae</em> with the help of an <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">original undisputed source published by its instigator</a>, Fr. René Laurentin. The mariologist released the results of his “<a title="Medjugorje: The unbearable sadness of duping the faithful – 2) Fr. Laurentin’s fabrication concerning the father of a nun’s child – Part 1 – The libel" href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#complete">deep investigation</a>” which “reveals” that</p>
<div id="attachment_1830" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1830" title="Fr._René_Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A-150x150.jpg" alt="Fr._René_Laurentin_Ivry_1985_01-26_A" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fr. René Laurentin Ivry 1985-01-26 (photo: Louis Bélanger)</p></div>
<p><strong>-</strong><strong> </strong>t<strong>he nun/mother of the child “has made problems in three successive convents”;</strong></p>
<p><strong>-</strong><strong> </strong><strong>the “presumed father of the child quit the Franciscan Order and left for the USA where he married after reduction to the lay state”.</strong></p>
<p><strong>In doing so without referring to any substantiated source, Fr. Laurentin condemned the former Ordinary of Mostar</strong> for having “falsely” attributed the child’s paternity to another well known Franciscan, Fr. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_Ren%C3%A9_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_appara%C3%AEt-Elle_%C3%A0_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04.jpg">Tomislav Vlasic, who has been the spiritual guide</a> of the Medjugorje visionaries between 1981 and 1985.</p>
<p>As the integrity &#8212; not only of Mgr Pavao Zanic but also of some Medjugorje protagonists &#8212; is at stake, the unveiling of the necessary and valid documentation to shed the “light of truth” to the case becomes imperative.</p>
<p>I invite the readers who have not read the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/">preceding article</a> to do it first. They will find some answers to the following questions:</p>
<p>- How did I become <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#Herzegovina">acquainted</a> with the “T. affair” and what primary sources did I collect?</p>
<p>- What is Fr. René Laurentin’s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a> of the affair and his credibility &#8212; taking into account <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/10/20/medjugorje-the-grand-concealment-2-three-more-days-duplicity-rene-laurentin/">his precedent falsifications of historical documents</a>?</p>
<p>- Why do I suspect and claim that Laurentin’s version consists in the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#deceive">fabrication</a> of a story aimed at discrediting the Ordinary of Mostar?</p>
<p>- On what occasion did the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">former Bishop of Mostar conduct his own investigation on the affair</a> that led him to Rome &#8212; where Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger delivered primary sources to Mgr Zanic &#8212; and what results did he achieve?</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#November">Why do I publish</a> a “strictly confidential” document and excerpts of private documents?</p>
<div id="attachment_1920" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1920 " title="Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin-150x150.jpg" alt="Famous_accusation_against_Fr._Vlasic_a_hoax_according_to_Laurentin" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Famous accusation against Fr. Vlasic: a hoax, according to Laurentin</p></div>
<p>In light of recent developments, I must add an important reason for the unveiling of primary sources, as there are renewed published attempts to “rehabilitate” Tomislav Vlasic in using Fr. Laurentin’s fabrication. With full knowledge of these attempts, Mr. Vlasic makes no effort to put the record straight. We feel the obligation to do it, with the help of his own writings.</p>
<p>In the following lines, I will invite you to examine with me the authenticity of primary sources after submitting most of them to you with their significant excerpts. These sources are essential for the reconstruction of the facts. At the same time, three main protagonists will reveal themselves: the father and the mother of the child, and the “adoptive grandfather”. How will they manage to keep the secret or to make/not-make the truth known? We will be witnessing an intense drama of human fragility, desperation, manipulation, ambition, whose sad consequences will be the subject of our next article.</p>
<h4><strong>The examination of the sources’ authenticity</strong></h4>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></p>
<p>Before going through the sources, I suggest that you first read the “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">report</a>” by the former Bishop of Mostar which will give you the chronological sense of the whole drama. That undisputed <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">source 8</a> is to be found in the archives of the Bishopric of Mostar. As I <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">explained in the preceding article</a> when presenting the English version of that “report”, the complete names of some protagonists are not revealed for the sake of discretion.</p>
<p>We are now ready to proceed with the examination of each source that is presented chronologically with its significant excerpts &#8212; most of them having been translated into English. I will be adding some clarifications and questions for an “active reading”… Remember that my clarifications and questions will be proposed with the supposition that you have at least glanced through Mgr Zanic’s “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#most">report</a>”.</p>
<p>My explicit answers as well as yours &#8212; if you submit comments &#8212; will be treated in the next article.</p>
<h4><strong>My sources with significant excerpts</strong></h4>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 style="text-align: center;" align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">Source 01</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_01_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1976-12-07.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1976-12-07 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK</a> [(nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_01_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1976-12-07_excerpt_02_concerning_father_of_child_croatian.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>[„Was den Vater des Kindes anlangt, kann niemand Dich zwingen, darüber Auskunft zu geben. Du sagst: Du hast jemand vorübergehend kennengelernt. Er hat gesagt, er wird Dich heiraten. Später ist er weggegangen und hat sich nicht mehr gemeldet. Am besten ist zu sagen, Du kennst ihn nicht und niemand kann Dich zwingen ihn zu nennen. Auch für das Kind ist es später am besten.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Concerning the father of the child, no one can force you to give any information about him. You say: you have met someone for a short time. He said he will marry you. Later he went away and disappeared. The best way is to say, you don&#8217;t know him and no one can force you to give his name. Also for the child, it will be better later on.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>Mr. O. has sent that typed letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>: Fr. Vlasic’s “instructions” to M. are given 6 weeks before the birth of the child: How would you qualify them?</p>
<p>On page 2 of that long letter, Fr. Vlasic also formulates another “instruction” to M. as to how she should be dispensed from her vows. That typed letter includes the equivalent of five handwritten lines that give the possibility to identify the writer.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by Fr. Vlasic.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that letter?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">Source 02</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_01_Croatian.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1977-01-09 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK [(nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_02_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“The best thing is not to talk about the child. If you say anything about it only to one person, be it your own mother, or sister, or to anybody else, you said to the whole world. Besides, that will be of no help to you, just one more load to carry. On the contrary, you will have more merits and God’s blessings if you keep it to yourself, because in these difficult times you are going to save many sisters, Franciscans and Catholic world from disappointments. Then you are going to earn more reward than if you lived as a nun. You are going to be, indeed, like the Mother of God who accepted her special lot: she went with her child where it was necessary. God’s protection accompanied her, and that Child, even though it caused her crosses, became the source of the greatest glory to her. If you will embrace it in the same manner as She had done it, then there will not be the lack of joy and success in your life. And God will bless you forever. What is more, you do not have to tell it to anybody. You simply say that the child is yours, and let everybody else mind his own business. In this, you ought to be determined, since people are bad and they know how with their tongues to entangle the matters that nobody can disentangle.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_03_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 3</a></p>
<p><em>“N.B. Since Pervan</em> [Fr. Tomislav Pervan: added by LB] <em>has spread the news about you, a lot is being said about this house.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_02_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1977-01-09_excerpt_04_Croatian.jpg">excerpt 4</a></p>
<p><em>“God! N.B. If you are going to speak about the father of the child, the best thing would be to say that last summer, he went to Australia, and that you will arrange everything over there. Once you are there, you will find your way around. You can “give” any name to the father in order to satisfy the curiosity of people. This is the best way to do it. But in this, you have to be consistent and firm.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that typed letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong></p>
<p>How would you qualify that kind of intervention towards M., 16 days before the birth of the child?</p>
<p>That typed letter includes the equivalent of eight handwritten lines that give the possibility to identify the writer. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by Fr. Vlasic.</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that letter?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">Source 03</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1977-01-before the 25th &#8211; from Sr. RK (nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25) to Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">Excerpt 1</a></p>
<p><em>“My dear Tomo, I received your letter. Thanks for the prayers and good wishes. As far as my health is concerned as days are approaching, I am not bad. I am having headaches but this is from too much worrying. I went to be examined and was told that I will have the baby around the 10<sup>th</sup> of February. I got the dispensation from my vows. I went to confession. At present, everything is fine. I am praying to God that I die during childbirth since my life is so terrible. I don’t want it. Hundred times I would rather see myself dead than that someone of my folks sees me bearing an illegitimate child after 18 years of religious life. What is more, I have to lie that I had a baby with this and that. I don’t care for that kind of life that this old man has to take care of me.”</em> […] <em>“My Tomo, I brought shame upon myself. Everybody wants to be thought of as being honest. Not even an idiot will tell lies about himself. Just a bit is missing that I am completely insane.” </em>[…] <em>“As it is now, I am in need of everything.”</em> […] <em>“Who is going to take care of myself.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03_p2_I_will_not_reveal_your_identity.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“Besides, I am hiding from my relatives like a snake. Tomo, don’t aggravate yourself, I won’t reveal your identity to anybody – at least not for the time being. I will let you know if I reveal you to anybody. The other day, the old man started to inquire who is the father and if he was going to marry me. I told him that he would not marry me and that I won’t tell his name to anybody; and then he <a name="stopped"></a>stopped to question me anymore. Tomo, don’t be angry with me but you ought to understand me that it is not easy for me to cope with all this. You keep telling me to be like Mary. I understand that she was in a foreign land, but her Joseph was with her.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed the existence of that handwritten letter to his readers</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Questions: </strong></p>
<p><strong>- </strong>How would you qualify the state in which M. finds herself at the moment of writing? Do you consider her response directly linked to Fr. Vlasic’s previous letter?</p>
<p>- If your answer is positive, would you agree that the authenticity of M’s letter is also linked to &#8212; or leads to &#8212; the authenticity of Fr. Vlasic’s previous letter?</p>
<p>- Does her “consolation” &#8212; “<em>Tomo, don’t aggravate yourself, I won’t reveal your identity to anybody</em>” constitute an admission/confirmation that “Tomo” &#8212; Fr. Tomislav Vlasic &#8212; is the father of the child to be born?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that letter has been written by M.</p>
<p><strong>Questions: </strong></p>
<p>What is your impression of MP’s testimony concerning the authenticity of that 1½ page handwritten letter by M.?</p>
<p>What is your impression of the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">following opinion of MP</a>?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">Source 04</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">4</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_04_Letter-1981-12-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-an-almost-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1981-12-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost five-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_04_Letter-1981-12-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-an-almost-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p>“[Liebe M. Ende September habe ich Dir geschrieben. Ich erhielt keine Anrwort. Ich weiss nicht warum. Wie du siehst, nachdem Fr. Jozo Zovko eingesperrt ist, bin ich Pfarrer in Medjugorje geworden. Hier sind wir nur zwei, und tausend Menschen kommen, um Gospa zu beten. (Ich hoffe dass Du gehört hast, wie sich die Gospa hier erscheint.) Ich bin glücklich, dass ich hier bin, obwohl es viel Arbeit gibt un bin überlastet. Ich bin glücklich, dass ich ein Franziscaner bin und dass ich Gott diene.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Dear M. I wrote to you at the end of September. I received no response. I don&#8217;t know why. As you see, after Fr. Jozo Zovko has been put in prison, I have become the parish priest of Medjugorje. We only are two priests, here, and thousand people are coming to pray to the Gospa. (I hope that you have heard that the Madonna is appearing here.) I am happy to be here, even if there is much work to do and I am overloaded. I am happy to be a Franciscan and to serve God.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. However, he considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”].</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>Now that you know what Fr. Laurentin knew, would you agree with his statement that the translated excerpt of this letter is “insignificant”?</p>
<p>Please read again the two statements made by Fr. Vlasic in the said letter:</p>
<p>1) “I have become the parish priest of Medjugorje.”</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If one acknowledges</p>
<blockquote><p>→ Mgr Zanic’s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">statement</a> in his “report”: “<em>In 1981, Fr. Tomislav Vlasic came to Medjugorje without any approval</em>.”</p>
<p>→ and the present Ordinary’s <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=931">declaration</a> (see note 6, at the bottom of the page): &#8220;<em>T. Vlasic in a letter to M. K., December 15, 1981, writes from Medjugorje: “</em>As you see, after the arrest of Fr. Jozo Zovko, I am the parish priest at Medjugorje<em>“. It wasn&#8217;t true.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- How would you qualify Fr. Vlasic’s statement to M.?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- Do you agree with Fr. Laurentin’s appreciation that it is an “insignificant” statement?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- How would you qualify the concealment of that statement?</p>
<p>2) As to Fr. Vlasic’s other statement: “<em>I am happy to be a Franciscan</em>”, what would be your own appreciation of it, considering some “hopes” M. could have entertained of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/15/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts/#stopped">being with “her Joseph</a>” who would share the responsibility of taking care of their child?</p>
<p>What is your appreciation of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Former Franciscan M.P.</a>’s statement that <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">testifies</a> that that handwritten letter is from Fr. Vlasic?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop_r.jpg">Source 05</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop_r.jpg">5</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_05_Letter-1982-05-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-five-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1982-05-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a five-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. He considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”], and he seems to be right, except for the benign reproach addressed to M., here as in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop_r.jpg">source 4</a>, of failing to answer his letters.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">Source 06</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_06_Letter-1983-05-15-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-six-year-old-boy.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1983-05-15 &#8211; from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a six-year-old boy)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_06_excerpt_02_r.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>[„Ich habe mich gänzlich unserer Gospa ausgehändigt. Ich wünsche mein Leben zu leben.“]</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I have totally abandoned myself to our Gospa. I wish to live my life.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong> Mr. O. has sent that handwritten letter and its German translation to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#answer">Cardinal Ratzinger who delivered personally</a> the document to Mgr Pavao Zanic. The translation from German into English is mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that letter to his readers</a>. However, he considers the letter of the “accused” (Fr. Vlasic) as “<em>anodine</em>” [“insignificant”].</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>Now that you know what Fr. Laurentin knew, would you agree with his statement that the translated segment of this letter is “insignificant”?</p>
<p>Please read again the two statements made by Fr. Vlasic in the said letter: <em>&#8220;I have totally abandoned myself to our Gospa. I wish to live my life.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Considering the importance of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">source 3</a>, and its significance, what could be a plausible interpretation of the said statements?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">Source 07</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">7</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1984-11-?? &#8211; apparently from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a seven-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar &#8211; excerpt 1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“It seems to me that it is better that I tell you, because of our dear God and of our faith. If I wouldn’t say, I would consider it to be a sin. Our dear Saviour has given me strength to make everything known to you. <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">I bore a child.</span></em> [scratched in original letter: remark by LB] <em>I worked in Zagreb before I left for Germany. I became acquainted with Rev. Tomislav Vlasic in Zagreb who is, at present, in Medjugorje. Please, forgive me Father Bishop since I want to tell that I had a child, a son, by Rev. Tomislav Vlasic. Ever since then I am accompanied by so many miseries. I had to go to Germany to work there and also to leave the milieu where it was not easy for me.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a></p>
<p><em>“My son T. is already a big boy and goes to school. Christian family without a father is a family where Christian love is lacking and education without parents. I do not know what I am going to tell my son T. since his father Tomislav does not communicate with us lately. And T. knows everything. Dear Father Bishop,…”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_07_Letter-1984-11-00-apparently-from-MK-former-Sr.-RK-mother-of-T.-a-seven-year-old-boy-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a></p>
<p><em>« … what am I supposed to do that my son experiences the love of both parents? I am praying all the time to dear Saviour that my son might obtain the help from his father. I beg you that you find a way and that you tell Tomislav to help his son T. in his life so that he may finish school and that we put him on the Christian track. With Christ’s love I am kindly greeting you. M. I beg you, Most Reverend, that you speak to Father Vlasic and that you, in your conversation, only mention the names M and T.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>That handwritten <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#about">letter has been received by Mgr Pavao Zanic</a> in November 1984. It is highly probable that it has been transmitted to Cardinal Ratzinger for examination. The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Mgr Zanic and has also concealed its content to his readers.</p>
<p>Characteristics of that “mysterious” letter raise some <a name="doubts"></a>doubts about the identity of its sender:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- The letter is not dated and is signed only by M’s first name, without her address.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- In a handwritten note at the end of that letter (p. 2), Mgr Zanic writes that the envelope has been stamped in a post office at the border of Denmark.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- The content, which corresponds to facts, is not put into question, as we have noticed in the examination of the previous documents. It seems, however, that the size of the writing or calligraphy is different from the one observed in source <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, and the one in sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a> and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a> whose authenticity is assured, as we shall see.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- As witnessed personally by Mgr Zanic, M. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#address">denied</a> that she had written that letter. That denial left the Bishop <a name="sceptic"></a>sceptic:</p>
<blockquote><p>“With the help of my priests in Germany and police I found her in S., but while I was inve­stigating the matter in Hercegovina, her tutors had persuaded her to deny that she wrote the letter to the Bishop. <strong>I seemingly accepted that</strong>…” (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">Mgr Zanic to MP</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Because of that controversy, I initiated a double-blind quantitative grapho-analytic investigation on the four copies of the letters written by M. that I had at my disposition. The <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_Handwriting-comparison-analysis-1987-05-22-of-four-documents-sources-3-7-9-10-written-by-MK.jpg">report</a> was positive: similarities were observed in the slope of writing, calligraphic qualities and traits. “<em>The size of the writing is different but this can be </em><em>linked to the state of mind in which these letters w</em><em>ere written.</em>” However, taking into account that the grapho-analyst had copies instead of original documents, and that grapho-analysis is not an “exact” science &#8212; and in our case, submitted to one expert only &#8212; I have to suspend my “judgement” on a “convincing” material proof.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>- As the content of that letter seems to confirm the information revealed in the previous letters &#8212; from M. and Fr. Vlasic &#8212; should we simply ignore M’s denial of being its author?</p>
<p>- If, in any shape or form, directly or indirectly, M. is the author of that letter, what could explain that she asked for the Bishop’s help?</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">Mr. P. submitted to me his own answer</a> to the previous question. Do you agree with his interpretation?</p>
<p>- If M’s denial is truthful and not “forced”:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- who could have written that letter and incited the Bishop to visit M. in Germany, and why?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- does M’s denial invalidate the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">letter she wrote to “Tomo” in January 1977</a>, before giving birth to her son?</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">Source 08</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">Report &#8211; 1985-11-?? &#8211; (private and strictly confidential) from the Ordinariate of Mostar</a> (Bp. PZ) [see English translation <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">here</a>] I have left Fr. Ivo Sivric’s dictated translation (1986) untouched.</p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has admitted the existence of that “report” to his readers</a> but has concealed its specific content in order to be able to submit his own fabrication.</p>
<p>I suppose that, at this stage of looking at the sources, the readers will have gone through Mgr Zanic’s “<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#discretion">report</a>”.</p>
<p>We remember that the Bishop of Mostar made the following controversial statement:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Then, two Franciscan fathers of Herzegovina went to the U.S. to ask the former Fr. P. to take the responsibility upon himself for the fatherhood of the boy. P. was in Zagreb with Fr. Tomislav when Sr. R. became pregnant and they wanted to put the responsibility upon him…”</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, Mgr Zanic doesn’t mention the source of that information. Only one year later, in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">his letter to M.P., the Bishop</a> refers to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">his two sources</a>: Mr. O. and the Franciscan Provincial. Mgr Zanic asked Mr. P., in that same letter, to confirm his “non-fatherhood” of M’s child and the visit of the said Franciscans. Mr. P. did not answer the Bishop’s letter.</p>
<p>According to Mr. P, Mgr Zanic’s allegation on the Franciscans&#8217; visit is untrue. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">In his long letter to me, Mr. P.</a> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“He [the Bishop] says that Fr. Tomislav has confessed his fatherhood before him and the Provincial, and that the Provincial told him about two Franciscans who allegedly went to America to ask me to accept the fatherhood. I talked to the former Provincial, and I did not get the impression that this was true.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I could not get any documentation to corroborate one or the other version. It looks like a “he said, he said”, which is not reliable. A suspension of judgment would be appropriate. It must be said, however, that an answer by Mr. P. to the Bishop’s letter would have helped to clarify the said allegation.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">Source 09</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1985-11-26 &#8211; from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_01.jpg">excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p>“<em>Most Reverend Father Bishop, Ever since you visited here, since then this old man won&#8217;t leave me alone. I am serving him already nine years. He told me that you came to inquire who is the father of my son. He is suspecting a priest over there</em> [in Yugoslavia] <em>and he is writing letters all over. He is also writing to you, too. I am a Catholic, I was in the convent for 18 years, and I know what means to be a priest, and I cannot allow that something like that is said against them. I beg you as a Bishop and a priest that you would not believe that grandpa of 95 years of age who is feeble-minded. He is not aware how one can destroy someone&#8217;s reputation and cause a scandal&#8230;</em> [a sentence hard to make out: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric - 1986] <em>I am going to tell you what is all about. I am here nine years and serve him. But he did not obtain for me social insurance, and I am granted a permit to live in Germany and to work since the period of nine years is quite long. He did not care about me &#8230;</em> [it cannot be figured out: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric – 1986]&#8230; <em>he wants me to continue to be with him, but I won&#8217;t stay here because some lies are spread around. That&#8217;s the secret between God and myself</em> [who is the father of M's son: remark by Fr. Ivo Sivric - 1986), <em>and nobody else knows. I am leaving him and I will get a job. I gave a notice to the grandpa.</em>”</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_09_Letter-1985-11-26-from-MK-to-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a></p>
<p>“<em>Most Reverend, I maintain that you will accept what I have said and not what other people are saying who love to gossip. Take this into consideration because of the Church since in nowadays the world is full of evil and you know that. I am wishing you happy and joyous Christmas, please, keep me in your prayers, with sincere greetings. M.</em>”</p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Mgr Zanic and has also concealed its content to his readers.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>If you confer some credibility to the authenticity of sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop.jpg">4</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop.jpg">5</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a>:</p>
<p>- how do you understand M’s position in that particular letter?</p>
<p>- what is your interpretation of some of M’s “justifications”? [<em> I know what means to be a priest…--- how one can destroy someone's reputation and cause a scandal...</em>]<em> </em></p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">Source 10</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_01.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1985-12-26 from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Fr. Ivan Dugandzic, (Fr. ID) Franciscan member of the Diocesan Commission</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_01.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Dear fra Ivan, Here I am answering your questions which the Most Reverend brought up during the session of the Commission against me. First I did not write that letter at all which supposedly had been written in 1983 and which the Bishop had shown to you. He himself knows that that letter is not mine for he came to me last spring in S. The same letter he showed to me, too. I said: Most Reverend, that&#8217;s not my letter nor is it my handwriting. The two of us alone spoke about it face to face. I told: Most Reverend, do you believe that that letter is not mine? He answered: I do believe. And now once again I hear that he said that that letter was mine. Besides, he asked me not to talk about it at all, and he promised that he would not talk either, and he did not talk. It hurts me very badly that a Bishop can spread around a lie against me. And I was unable to imagine that he can say something like it. God is my witness, and I am willing to take an oath before anybody, even on the cross, that I never either wrote or said to anybody. I never asked a help from anybody for my child and I will never ask. I never said to anybody who is the father of my child. That&#8217;s my private matter about which I am not willing to talk nor do I allow anybody else over there to talk about it. Fra Ivan, tell Most Reverend once more that he hurt me in soul with those wrong words. And my old man whom I have served nine years and whom I respected. When I have heard that he also behind my back writes against me that untruth hit me so hard that I left him right away.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_Letter-1985-12-26-from-MK-to-Fr.-Ivan-Dugandzic-Franciscan-member-of-the-Diocesan-Commission_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>&#8220;I went away from him. Those letters that he sent to Cardinal Ratzinger, everything was behind my back. I knew nothing, nor did I know which letters were involved, nor who wrote those letters. You believe more the old man of 95 years who is spreading a lie around. He does not care either about the Church or the priests. Ask Bishop to show you my letter which I wrote to him November 26, 1985; tell him also that my soul hurts me because of the lie which is being spread all over the world against me. I would end with this: if I have offended anybody, I ask for pardon, in the same manner let those who offended me to apologize. My greetings to the Bishop and all on the Commission; and if they want to do something for me, let them pray for me. And I will be grateful to them for it, I am not asking for anything more. That is best for me. MK&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Fr. Ivo Sivric (1986).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Fr. Laurentin has concealed</a> that that handwritten letter with M’s signature has been received by Fr. Dugandzic and has also concealed most of its content to his readers. The recipient of the partial content of that specific letter is falsely identified as the Bishop of Mostar. [See more on the “anatomy” of the fabrication in the next article: “The perfidy and its consequences”.]</p>
<p>M’s letter contains some factual errors:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- the letter in question [<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">source 7</a>], not dated, has been posted in November 1984 &#8212; <a href="http://wp.me/pX3iq-qf/#doubts">according to the Bishop’s written testimony</a>&#8212;, not 1983;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- following the reception of that letter, the Bishop visited M. in S., in November 1984 (according to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_04.jpg">Mr. O.’s written testimony</a>), not in the Spring of 1985.</p>
<p><strong>Questions:</strong></p>
<p>If one confers some credibility to the authenticity of sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-1.-Letter-1976-12-07-from-Fr.-Tomislav-Vlasic-to-Sr.-RK-+-excerpt-2_pop.jpg">1</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_2_pop.jpg">2</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_4_pop.jpg">4</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_5_pop.jpg">5</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_6_pop.jpg">6</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a>:</p>
<p>- Can one explain why M. has been asked by a Franciscan colleague of Fr. Tomislav Vlasic to answer some “delicate” questions in writing concerning the identity and behaviour of Fr. Vlasic?</p>
<p>- Did Fr. Dugandzic have a legitimate mandate from the Commission to require some targeted answers from M.?</p>
<p>- If Fr. Dugandzic had a legitimate mandate from the Commission to enlighten its members on that subject, why has Fr. Tomislav Vlasic not been asked to answer some “delicate” questions in writing by the same colleague concerning his own correspondence with M. since 1976 and his behaviour towards M. in that period of time?</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_11_pop.jpg">Source 11</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_11_pop.jpg">11</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">Brochure in French released by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-01</a> (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_B_p_6.jpg">p. 6</a>)</p>
<p>We have already presented the first phase of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Source 12</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">12</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">Booklet in French authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-07</a> (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_50.jpg">50</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_51.jpg">51</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">52</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_53.jpg">53</a>)</p>
<p>We have already presented the second phase of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">Source 13</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">13</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1986-10-31 &#8211; from Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar (Bp. PZ) to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP.jpg">Excerpt 1</a>:</p>
<p><em>“Dear P.! We don’t know each other, but there is something that both of us should be concerned about, and that is the child of ex-nun RK. </em></p>
<p><em>I am sending you a part of correspondence what Cardinal Ratzinger gave me. That and much more was mailed to him by old A-M O. with whom they accommodated pregnant M. </em></p>
<p><em>In November 1984, she wrote me a letter on which there was just a mark M. With the help of my priests in Germany and police I found her in S., but while I was inve­stigating the matter in Hercegovina, her tutors had persuaded her to deny that she wrote the letter to the Bishop. I seemingly accepted that, stayed there for dinner, saw little T. (looks the same as Fr. Tomislav). </em></p>
<p><em>I wasn&#8217;t telling anyone about that. Afterwards, the old O. asked himself why the Bishop was coming to M.? I had not told him anything. He translated some letters photocopied long time ago, and he found out that M. was a nun, that the father of the child is Fr. Tomislav Vlasic. </em></p>
<p><em>Fr. Tomislav had pleaded guilty before me and the Provincial that he is the father of the child. Before that he did confess the same to one of the members of the Commission, but after that, in front of some, he is denying, and in front of others, he forgives to all &#8220;calumniators&#8221;.”</em></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></p>
<p><em>“Everything is clear, but now I&#8217;m sending you a photocopy where Laurentin writes that the child is yours, even though he isn&#8217;t mentioning your name. </em></p>
<p><em>I wish you would write to me about the events from 1976, when the drama was taking place in Zagreb, and would you send me a statement that you are not little T.’s father. </em></p>
<p><em>Old O. writes, and the Provincial is telling me that when this was discovered, two Franciscans again went to you in America to persuade you to accept the fatherhood. </em></p>
<p><em>M. and T. were transferred in A. so that they can be better taken care of. Old O. loved little T. a lot. From what I hear he bought them an apartment in Zagreb, and again he asked me to help them with both Provincials.”</em></p>
<p><strong>Clarifications:</strong></p>
<p>The translation from Croatian into English has been made for me by Mr. M.P. (1988).</p>
<p>We have already clarified the untruth concerning the purported visit of two Franciscans to Mr. P. aimed at “persuading the former Franciscan to accept T.’s fatherhood”, which Mr. P. denied.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg">Source 14</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_pop.jpg">14</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1986-12-01 &#8211; from A-M.O to members of a student help organization he founded.</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_14_Letter-1986-12-01-from-A-M.O-to-members-of-a-student-help-organization-he-founded_excerpt_05.jpg">excerpt 5</a></p>
<p>I would appreciate some help of one of my readers in the German speaking countries to translate the five identified excerpts into English which we will present in the next article.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_pop.jpg">Source 15</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_pop.jpg">15</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_15_Handwriting-comparison-analysis-1987-05-22-of-four-documents-sources-3-7-9-10-written-by-MK.jpg">Handwriting comparison analysis &#8211; 1987-05-22 &#8211; of four documents </a>(sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_3_pop.jpg">3</a>,<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg"> 7</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">9</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_10_pop.jpg">10</a>) written by Sr. RK/MK (mother of T.)</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/03/15/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-2-the-facts/#sceptic">above</a> for the presentation of that document.</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_pop.jpg">Source 16</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_pop.jpg">16</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_cover.jpg">Booklet in English authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL)</a>, 1987 (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_40.jpg">40</a>-<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_41.jpg">41</a>, partial translation of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">12</a>)</p>
<p>That English partial translation has been presented in the context of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s complete French <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/#LB">version</a>.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_17_pop.jpg">Source 17</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_17_pop.jpg">17</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer.jpg">Transcribed notes &#8211; 1988-08-04 &#8211; of a telephone conversation between Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL) and Louis Bélanger (LB)</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_02.jpg">page 2</a> – <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_03.jpg">page 3</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_04.jpg">page 4</a></p>
<p>That document will be presented in the next article together with the discussion concerning the &#8220;anatomy&#8221; of Fr. Laurentin&#8217;s fabrication.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">Source 18</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">18</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_Letter-1988-08-31-from-Louis-B%C3%A9langer-to-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1988-08-31 &#8211; from Louis Bélanger to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</a></p>
<p>Mr. M.P. is a former Franciscan &#8220;accused&#8221; by Fr. Laurentin of being the father of M&#8217;s child. He used to share the house of a small Franciscan community, in Zagreb, for some years in the 70&#8242;s, together with Fr Tomislav Vlasic and Sr R.K. who became the mother of a child. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Mr. P. has kindly accepted to answer my written questions </a>sent to him in 1988 and gave his permission for the publication of his answers, as confirmed in the excerpts attached to the source.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><strong><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/List-of-sources_Laurentins-fabrication_the_facts_2012-03-16.jpg">List</a></strong></strong></p>
<h4 align="center"><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">Source 19</a></strong></h4>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">19</a></strong>. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_B%C3%A9langer_LB_Source_19.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1988-09-15 &#8211; from MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.) to Louis Bélanger (LB)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">excerpt 1</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_02.jpg">excerpt 2</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">excerpt 3</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_04.jpg">excerpt 4</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_05.jpg">excerpt 5</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">excerpt 6</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_07.jpg">excerpt 7</a> - <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-19-Letter-1988-09-15-from-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.A.-to-Louis-Belanger-excerpt-08.jpg">excerpt 8</a></p>
<p><strong>Intro:</strong></p>
<p>Dear Mr. Belanger, [...] I&#8217;ll try to answer your questions as best as I can. I&#8217;ll try to be objective. I don&#8217;t have any interest taking one or another side. The truth is that I don&#8217;t believe in the apparitions in Medjugorje and Fr. Tomislav Vlasic and M.K. were my friends and they are still my friends. What I&#8217;m about to say is what I think based on what I know. My only interest in this matter is that the truth comes out. If you want to publish any of my remarks, feel free to do so. I&#8217;m sorry that my English is not very good, so if you quote me, please correct my English. [Permission to publish reiterated by M.P. to LB in an email dated 2012-01-23, twenty-three years later...]</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_01.jpg">Excerpt 1</a></strong>:</p>
<p>Yes, You are right! There is not any allusion in all the correspondence that Fr. Vlasic would wish to be dispensed from his vows.  He is only helping M. to get her dispense from her vows. In my opinion, he doesn&#8217;t have the courage to do the same, I mean to leave the Order.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_02.jpg">Excerpt 2</a></strong>:</p>
<p>What would be my own version concerning T&#8217;s father&#8217;s identity? If you had asked me that question before I found out about the &#8220;T. affair&#8221;, I wouldn&#8217;t even have tried to answer that, because that would have been very hard for anyone.</p>
<p>Knowing Fr. Tomislav for a long time, I would have never thought that he would do something like that. When I was in Zagreb at that time, when M. left us, we used to discuss many times who could be the father. We never mentioned the possibility that he could be the father.</p>
<p>In the house where we lived, there were two nuns: M.K. and K.L., and there were three of us: K.G., Tomislav Vlasic and me. I did not think of Tomislav as being the father. I knew that I was not, and I knew that M. had never liked K. G.</p>
<p>Furthermore, M. did not go out, except to the store, and not even often. Yes, there were times that some other priests would be in the house, but they would be a day or two and leave. So, as you see, it wasn’t easy to answer that question at that time.</p>
<p>Now, after I read all of this correspondence between M. and Tomislav, her letter to the Bishop, there is no doubt in my mind that Fr. Tomislav is the father of M&#8217;s child.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_03.jpg">Excerpt 3</a></strong>:</p>
<p>What do I think about the authenticity of those letters? Could they be forged? I know M&#8217;s and Tomislav&#8217;s handwriting, and I&#8217;m very confident the letters are not forged. It is possible that one could forge one letter, but not all those series of letters. I can&#8217;t imagine one would have interest to do that. I firmly believe that the letters are M&#8217;s and Tomislav&#8217;s.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_04.jpg">Excerpt 4</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: Could you confirm me (as you did on telephone) that Laurentin has never got in touch with you to verify that “<em>the presumed father of the child quit the order and went to the United States, where he is married after being reduced to the lay state.”</em>?]</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: No! Fr. Laurentin never got in touch with me.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_05.jpg">Excerpt 5</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: Concerning your knowledge of M., Laurentin writes &lt;<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_12_pop.jpg">Source 12</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>&gt;: « <em>Il est vrai qu’une religieuse franciscaine croate, dont la présence avait fait problème dans trois couvents successifs…</em> ». Do you have some information that would help to confirm or deny that M’s “presence in three successive convents had created problems”?]</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: I don’t know where Fr. Laurentin gets his information from? If he accuses me of being the father of M&#8217;s child, without any hard evidence, then he can accuse M. of anything he wants. I never heard that M. had created problems in any convent. That is not enough to deny Laurentin&#8217;s story, but Herzegovina is very small and if something like that had happened, these things would have been usually known soon after.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_06.jpg">Excerpt 6</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[Question by LB: If you accept the authenticity of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_7_pop.jpg">Document 7</a> (purported letter from M. to Bishop Zanic), how would you explain that she changed her mind as confirmed in her letter to Bishop Zanic dated Nov. 26 1985? &lt;<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_9_pop.jpg">Source 9</a>&gt;</p>
<p>Answer by M.P.: Why did M. change her mind? That’s easy to explain. […] When everything was done, M. found herself alone in [Germany] without knowing the language, with the old man whom she never knew, with her own child whom she had to take care of, not knowing how. That was a very hard situation for her. Tomislav would write from time to time, but that was not enough for her. She had to talk to someone, but she was very isolated from anyone. In one of her letters to Tomislav, she asked him to send some toothpaste from Zagreb. So, as you see, she felt like being imprisoned. I think she was happy for having her own child, but at the same time, she was very afraid of how to nurse him alone. Finally, she couldn&#8217;t take it any more!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_Letter_1988-09-15_from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_the_U.S.A._to_Louis_Belanger_excerpt_07.jpg">Excerpt 7</a></strong>:</p>
<p>About Fr. Tomislav being manipulative. As a person, I don&#8217;t think he was manipulative. But, reading his letters to M., one would conclude that he is manipulative. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he was manipulative of visionaries, because I think they were afraid of the situation in which they found themselves after claiming to see the Madonna.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source-19-Letter-1988-09-15-from-MP-former-Franciscan-living-in-the-U.S.A.-to-Louis-Belanger-excerpt-08.jpg">Excerpt 8</a></strong>:</p>
<p>[The Bishop writes to me] that Fr. Tomislav has confessed his fatherhood before him and the Provincial, and that the Provincial told him about two Franciscans who allegedly went to America to ask me to accept the fatherhood. I talked to the former Provincial and I did not get the impression that this was true.</p>
<p>[Remark by LB: we have to remember my discussion of that point in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">Source 8</a>.  In <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">his letter to M.P., the Bishop</a> refers to <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_Letter-1986-10-31-from-Bishop-Pavao-Zanic-of-Mostar-to-MP_excerpt_02.jpg">his two sources</a>: Mr. O. and the Franciscan Provincial. Mgr Zanic asked Mr. P., in that same letter, to confirm his “non-fatherhood” of M’s child and the visit of the said Franciscans. Mr. P. did not answer the Bishop’s letter. According to primary sources, particularly sources 1, 2 and 3, there is no reasonable doubt that Tomislav Vlasic is the father of M's child. Mr. P's "impression" of an untruth concerns the alleged plan of sending a "delegation" of two Franciscans to ask him to accept the fatherhood of M's child. Mr. P. asked the former Provincial --- one of the two sources of the Bishop --- and he got the "impression" that there had been no such plan. No verification has been made with the Bishop's second source, Mr. O.. This is why I pointed out that a suspension of judgment pertaining to that alleged "plan" seems to be appropriate.]</p>
<p>*****</p>
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<h4><strong>Conclusion</strong></h4>
<p>The expression that comes to my mind in trying to put a “provisional” end to the revealing display of those primary sources is “perfidy”: the act or fact of violating the trust or confidence of another (<a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/perfidy">M-W</a>).</p>
<p>The spectre of perfidy is haunting the history of Medjugorje. How sad is the <em>constat</em> that the trust of faithful and <em>bona fide </em>researchers has been and still is betrayed by unscrupulous and irresponsible communicators, journalists, pastors, historians whose ends justify the means.</p>
<p>Now that we have examined the facts that shed some light on a human drama and a disastrous fabrication attempting to conceal it, we will try, in the next and last article of that series, to draw the consequences of such a perfidy.</p>
<p>Your remarks/comments/critiques are welcome. They will be moderated and should be identified properly with a valid name linked to a valid IP.</p>
<p>With my cordial greetings,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>“Tornielli is wrong about Medjugorje” – Vaticanist agrees…</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Tornielli is wrong about Medjugorje” – Vaticanist agrees… In a noticeable reversal of position, journalist/vaticanist Andrea Tornielli agrees with an Italian contradictor that “non constat de supernaturalitate” is a “negative judgment”. Vatican Insider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>In significant coincidence with the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/27/vaticanist-andrea-torniellis-last-writing-on-medjugorje-and-willful-blindness-1/">publication of our last post, yesterday,</a> and in a noticeable reversal of position, journalist/vaticanist Andrea Tornielli agrees with an Italian contradictor that “<em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em>” is a “negative judgment”.</strong></p>
<h3><strong>First, Mr. Tornielli wrote (2012-02-25) in the <em><a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-papa-el-papa-pope-12965/">Vatican Insider</a></em>:</strong></h3>
<blockquote><p>“At the beginning of the apparitions in Medjugorje a diocesan commission had been established which had then passed its hand to the Bishops&#8217; Conference of Yugoslavia which, however failed to pronounce itself on whether the phenomena was supernatural or not, concluding in 1991 with the declaration «non constat de supernaturalitate»”… “this is the classic cautious expression, since the bishops were not able to either approve or deny…” “The suspension verdict, open to further developments, is neither «yes» nor «no».” […] But the outcome considered most likely at the moment in the sacred buildings is a repeat of the 1991 suspension of judgment, the «supernaturality is not certain» without openly taking a stand for or against.</p></blockquote>
<h3><strong>Then, a Franciscan contradictor issued a gentle but well argued response</strong> (2012-02-27)</h3>
<p>on his <em><a href="http://www.cantualeantonianum.com/2012/02/tornielli-su-medjugorje-sbaglia-non.html">Cantuale Antonianum</a></em> yesterday with the title: <strong>“Tornielli is wrong about Medjugorje: ‘<em>Non constat de supernaturalitate</em>’ is a negative judgment.” </strong></p>
<p><strong>“I did not want to intervene on these issues&#8221;, wrote the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/08030413277263548609">Franciscan priest and theologian</a> with a master&#8217;s degree in communication sciences.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In principle, I keep away from controversy. But when reporters do not accurately verify their theological statements, we must gently intervene, out of respect for the truth.”</p></blockquote>
<p>According to the contradictor, the “famous journalist” Tornielli, whom Fr. A.R. “respects and admires”, endorses “wrong beliefs, widespread even in Church circles”:</p>
<div id="attachment_1738" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 100px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Amato_Mgr_Angelo_L_Avvenire_2008-07-09_constat_non_constat.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1738 " title="Amato_Mgr_Angelo_L_Avvenire_2008-07-09_constat_non_constat" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Amato_Mgr_Angelo_L_Avvenire_2008-07-09_constat_non_constat-150x150.jpg" alt="Mgr Angelo Amato on &quot;constat&quot;-&quot;non constat&quot; - 2008" width="90" height="90" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mgr Angelo Amato on &quot;constat&quot;-&quot;non constat&quot; - 2008</p></div>
<p>-          in claiming that the <em>non constat de supernaturalitate </em>is a “suspension verdict” and is neither “yes” nor “no”;</p>
<p>-          in ignoring <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7201">Mgr Angelo Amato’s 2008 declaration</a>;</p>
<p>-          in misunderstanding the importance and severity of the <em><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/73756470/Normae-Congregationis-2010-translation">1978 Norms</a> </em>which, when applied to the Medjugorje case,</p>
<div id="attachment_1113" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/René_Laurentin_and_Andrea-Tornielli_Milano_2008.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1113" title="René Laurentin and Andrea Tornielli Milano 2008" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/René_Laurentin_and_Andrea-Tornielli_Milano_2008-150x110.jpg" alt="René Laurentin and Andrea Tornielli Milano 2008" width="150" height="110" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Andrea Tornielli (right) with René Laurentin (Milano, 2008)</p></div>
<p>can only lead to a negative verdict as already expressed by the local Ordinaries and 19 out of 20 members of the former Yugoslavian Bishops’ Conference (<a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2008/09/zadar-declaration-1991.html">Zadar Declaration</a>);</p>
<p>-          in underestimating grave objections (raising of money in connection with alleged supernatural events, seers’ behavior and their wealth as a result of pilgrimages, &#8220;serious immoral acts” and heresies from supporters, followers, and  guides, manipulated narration of historical events organized in a kind of vulgate by renowned mariologists…)</p>
<h3><strong>Finally, in the form of a polite rejoinder,</strong></h3>
<p><a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/world-news/detail/articolo/medjugorje-vatican-vaticano-13070/">Andrea Tornielli acknowledged today the validity of Fr. A.R.’s arguments</a> concerning the appropriate interpretation of the <em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em>, Mgr Amato’s declaration and the <em>1978 Norms</em>. In doing so, he delivered generously and publicly the Latin text of the <em>Norms</em> that has always been <em>sub secreto </em>since 1978…</p>
<div id="attachment_1002" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Cardinal_Schoenborn_Medjugorje_2009-12-31_a.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1002" title="Cardinal_Schönborn_Medjugorje_2009-12-31_a" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Cardinal_Schoenborn_Medjugorje_2009-12-31_a-150x150.jpg" alt="Cardinal Christoph Schönborn in Medjugorje - 2009-12-31" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cardinal Christoph Schönborn in Medjugorje - 2009-12-31</p></div>
<p>If Mr. Tornielli wonders how he could &#8220;reward&#8221; those who contributed to the present</p>
<div id="attachment_1740" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Cardinal_Schönborn_Medjugorje_2009-2010.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1740" title="Cardinal Schönborn Medjugorje 2009-2010 - Interview" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Cardinal_Schönborn_Medjugorje_2009-2010-150x150.jpg" alt="Cardinal Schönborn Medjugorje 2009-2010 - Interview" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cardinal Schönborn Medjugorje 2009-2010 - Interview</p></div>
<p>discussion &#8212; see the references below &#8212; I hereby submit the suggestion to communicate his amended reflections to <a href="http://wap.medjugorje.ws/en/articles/cardinal-schonborn-medjugorje/">Cardinal Christoph Schönborn</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7271">for the Prelate’s own inspiration</a>.</p>
<p>Concerning the contributions to the present discussion, I have placed anchors for browsing facility on the following points that Fr. A.R. referred to at the end of his article:</p>
<p>- <a title="“For the Holy See, Medjugorje is a tormenting dilemma” (Vittorio Messori) – Right? Wrong! There is NO dilemma! (Part 2)" href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/#LB">the meaning of “<em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em>”</a> (article)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7201">on the subtleties of the Vaticanese language </a>and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Kingham_2007_title_abstract_extract_meaning_Non_constat_de_supernaturalitate-.jpg">Fr. Kingham&#8217;s thesis on the <em>1978 Norms</em></a> (comment to Sharon)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7218">clarifications on a clear positive, a clear negative and a wait-and-see </a><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7218">negative</a></strong> (comment to Maria)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7226">do the <em>Norms </em>mention the <em>constat de non supernaturalitate</em>?</a> (comment to Sharon)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7271">a prospective response to Andrea Tornielli&#8217;s perception of the <em>&#8220;non constat&#8221;</em> </a> (comment to Maria)</p>
<p>Thanks to Fr. A.R. for today&#8217;s alert on Andrea Tornielli&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>Your remarks/comments/critiques are welcome. They will be moderated and should be identified properly with a valid name linked to a valid IP.</p>
<p>With my cordial greetings,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>Vaticanist Andrea Tornielli&#8217;s last writing on Medjugorje and willful blindness (1)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vaticanist Andrea Tornielli’s last writing on Medjugorje appears afflicted with willful blindness. That critical diagnosis is based on the observation of four symptoms...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1112" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Andrea_Tornielli.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1112" title="Andrea Tornielli" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Andrea_Tornielli-150x150.jpg" alt="Andrea Tornielli 2010" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Vaticanist Andrea Tornielli 2010</p></div>
<h2>Vaticanist Andrea Tornielli’s <a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/the-vatican/detail/articolo/medjugorje-papa-el-papa-pope-12965/">last writing on Medjugorje</a> appears afflicted with willful blindness. That critical diagnosis is based on the observation of the following symptoms:</h2>
<p><strong>1-      An incapacity for discrimination applied to the “<em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em>” is apparent. The origin of that symptom is unknown. However, it may be hypothesized that the vaticanist’s astigmatic view of the “classic expression” in Canon Law has emerged from an excessive exposure to some writings and interviews of Cardinal Christoph Schönborn following the Prelate’s stay in Medjugorje, two years ago.</strong></p>
<p><strong>2-      The Vaticanist’s optical system seems to be irremediably fixated on the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/09/30/medjupedia-a-pause-%e2%94%80-the-construction-of-the-%e2%80%9clady-of-medjugorje%e2%80%9d/#Lady">Lady of Medjugorje</a>. When other stimuli are presented to his sight, such as <a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2008/09/truth-about-medjugorje-by-bishop-pavao.html">gestures</a> of the Ordinary of Mostar, there is no response. That point-blank refusal or incapability to consider some <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/16/medjugorje-commission-our-work-is-continuing-but-we-need-to-finish-it-this-year-cardinal-vinko-puljic-2012-02-14/#LB">visible facts</a> is puzzling. No organic impairment has been found. Apparently, the said Ordinary’s gestures have been <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7562">determined by communist invisible forces</a>, which would explain why they are not seen… Are we confronted with a complex psychological mechanism called “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance">cognitive dissonance</a>”?</strong></p>
<p><strong>3-      The third symptom is mystifying, because it appears to resort to extrasensory perception (ESP). The vaticanist wants us to believe that the seers “generally made a good impression on the commissioners.” <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/16/medjugorje-commission-our-work-is-continuing-but-we-need-to-finish-it-this-year-cardinal-vinko-puljic-2012-02-14/">Cardinal Vinko Puljic having said:</a> “<em>We cannot talk about what the commission is doing, because we are bound to secrecy</em>”, how can a vaticanist incite commissioners to breach a binding agreement? If so, has he “generally” interviewed the more than twenty Commission members? If not so, is that information coming from the interested seers themselves? Otherwise, should we hypothesize a “third eye”? Does the journalist have the capacity to induce <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience">out-of-the-body experiences</a> and observe <em>in vivo </em>what is happening during the sessions of the Commission? Should we examine seriously what is often seen in the paranormal world: the compensation on a “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye">third eye</a>” of what the subject cannot see with his two normal ones? Last but not least, the gifted vaticanist announces his premonition of the verdict: “…the outcome considered most likely at the moment […] is a repeat of the 1991 suspension of judgment, the “supernaturality is not certain” without openly taking a stand for or against.” No justification, no analysis, period.</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_1673" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 100px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/No_see_02-e1330383300539.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1673 " title="Willful blindness" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/No_see_02-150x150.jpg" alt="Willful blindness" width="90" height="90" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Willful blindness</p></div>
<p><strong>4-      Finally, the fourth and last symptom speaks for itself. Mr. Tornielli quotes then Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, <a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2008/09/are-pilgrimages-to-medjugorje-permitted.html">Mgr Tarcisio Bertone writing in 1998</a>, that the pilgrimages were permitted, “<em>provided they are not considered as an authentication of events still in progress&#8230;</em>&#8220;. A few lines before, the journalist wrote in the same breath: “Mary defining herself the ‘Queen of Peace’, began to appear in a parish run by Franciscan friars, and the village of Medjugorje, which still today is rather difficult to reach, has attracted millions of people, in spite of the public disavowals of the Bishops of Mostar.” The vaticanist’s pilgrimage in the land of mystification has ended successfully, filled with its proverbial fruits. Notwithstanding Mgr Bertone’s <em>caveat</em> and its logical understanding, Andrea Tornielli “authenticates” the Lady of Medjugorje with the <em>nihil obstat</em> of a vaticanist, “in spite of the [substantiated, competent and legitimate] public disavowals of the Bishops of Mostar.” There are a few names for that intellectual presumptuousness: &#8220;willful blindness&#8221;, &#8220;willful ignorance&#8221;, &#8220;<a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=1203">vincible ignorance</a>&#8221; which are considered synonyms in the context of the present post.</strong></p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>In part 2, I will submit some explanations on the four points. In the meantime, the interested readers could refer to my considerations concerning the <em>non constat de supernaturalitate </em>that can be found in one post and in some comments. I have placed anchors on the following points that I will try to summarize next time:</p>
<p>- <a title="“For the Holy See, Medjugorje is a tormenting dilemma” (Vittorio Messori) – Right? Wrong! There is NO dilemma! (Part 2)" href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/#LB">the meaning of “<em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em>”</a> (article)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7201">on the subtleties of the Vaticanese language </a>and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Kingham_2007_title_abstract_extract_meaning_Non_constat_de_supernaturalitate-.jpg">Fr. Kingham&#8217;s thesis on the <em>1978 Norms</em></a> (comment to Sharon)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7218">clarifications on a clear positive, a clear negative and a wait-and-see </a><strong><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7218">negative</a></strong> (comment to Maria)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7226">do the <em>Norms </em>mention the <em>constat de non supernaturalitate</em>?</a> (comment to Sharon)</p>
<p>- <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/for-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma-vittorio-messori-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7271">a prospective response to Andrea Tornielli&#8217;s perception of the <em>&#8220;non constat&#8221;</em> </a> (comment to Maria)</p>
<p>To the Italian readers of medjupedia: please read the <a href="http://www.cantualeantonianum.com/2012/02/tornielli-su-medjugorje-sbaglia-non.html">article published today</a> in <em>Cantuale Antonianum</em> by an (unnamed) author who criticizes Mr. Tornielli’s perception of the <em>non constat</em> in referring to my position. [Update - 2012-02-28: myself afflicted with a certain blindness --- not scrolling down far enough at midnight --- I missed the discrete identification of the blogger, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/08030413277263548609">Franciscan Fr. A.R.</a> With my excuses and respect: L.B.]</p>
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<p>With my cordial greetings,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>Medjugorje Commission: “Our work is continuing. But we need to finish it this year.” [Cardinal Vinko Puljic – 2012-02-14]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(ASCA): Rome, 14 Feb: The commission appointed by Pope Benedict XVI to evaluate the authenticity of the alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje, led by Cardinal Camillo Ruini, is expected to present its concluding report before the end of 2012. &#160; &#8220;Within the year we want to finish our work and give our opinion to the Pope [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(<a href="http://www.asca.it/news-Vaticano__card__Puljic__rapporto_su_Medjugorje_pronto_entro_fine_2012-1124318.html" class="broken_link">ASCA</a>): Rome, 14 Feb: The commission appointed by Pope Benedict XVI to evaluate the authenticity of the alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje, led by Cardinal Camillo Ruini, is expected to present its concluding report before the end of 2012.</p>
<div id="attachment_1456" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 135px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2012_Abp._Sarajevo.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1456  " title="Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2012_Abp._Sarajevo" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2012_Abp._Sarajevo-260x300.jpg" alt="Cardinal Vinko Puljic - Abp. of Sarajevo - 2012" width="125" height="144" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cardinal Vinko Puljic - Abp. of Sarajevo - 2012</p></div>
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<p>&#8220;Within the year we want to finish our work and give our opinion to the Pope so that he may express his judgment,&#8221; said Cardinal Vinko Puljic, archbishop of Sarajevo and member of the commission, during the press conference announcing the Sant&#8217;Egidio community&#8217;s &#8221;Meeting for peace&#8221; which is to take place next September. &#8220;We cannot talk about what the commission is doing, because we are bound to secrecy&#8221;, the cardinal explained: &#8220;Our work is continuing. But we need to finish it this year.&#8221;   (asp/mpd)   (<a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/02/cardinal-puljic.html">Translated by Richard Chonak</a>)</p>
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<p>*****</p>
<p>Cardinal Puljic’s last announcement may be as puzzling now, as a few others have been in the past decade. However, there is certainly one declaration that has been unequivocally important and factual.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p><strong>The first puzzling announcement:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<h3><strong>CNS - 2006-07-25 : Cardinal says commission to review alleged apparitions at Medjugorje</strong></h3>
<p>VATICAN CITY (<a href="http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0604177.htm">CNS</a>) &#8212; Cardinal Vinko Puljic of Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, announced a commission would be formed to review the alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje and pastoral provisions for the thousands of pilgrims who visit the town each year.</p>
<p>&#8220;The commission members have not been named yet,&#8221; Cardinal Puljic told Catholic News Service in a July 24 telephone interview. &#8220;I am awaiting suggestions from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith&#8221; on theologians to appoint.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">&#8220;But this commission will be under the (Bosnian) bishops&#8217; conference&#8221; as is the usual practice with alleged apparitions, he said.</span></p>
<p>The cardinal said he did not expect the commission to be established until sometime in September because of the summer holidays.</p>
<p>He said the primary task of the commission would be to review a 1991 report from the region&#8217;s bishops that concluded, &#8220;It cannot be affirmed that these matters concern supernatural apparitions or revelations.&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition, he said, the commission would be asked to review pastoral provisions that forbid official diocesan and parish pilgrimages to Medjugorje, while at the same time allowing priests to accompany groups of Catholics in order to provide the sacraments and spiritual guidance.</p>
<p>When asked if the new commission was the idea of the doctrinal congregation or of the bishops&#8217; conference, Cardinal Puljic said, &#8220;I would rather not answer that question.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cardinal Puljic announced the future formation of the commission during the bishops&#8217; July 12-14 meeting in Banja Luka.</span></p>
<p>On June 25, thousands of pilgrims converged on Medjugorje to mark the 25th anniversary of the first alleged apparition to six young people.</p>
<p>The Vatican continues to monitor events at Medjugorje, where the apparitions allegedly continue, but it has not taken a formal position other than to support the bishops&#8217; ban on official pilgrimages.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">An official of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith confirmed July 25 that the commission would operate under the auspices of the Bosnian bishops&#8217; conference,</span> although the congregation would suggest the names of some commission members.</p>
<p>END                                                                                                               [underlined by LB]</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently, the CDF put a stop on that “initiative”, first presented at the BiH Bishops’ Conference in Banja Luka, that delayed for almost four years the creation of a new commission. <strong>Why?</strong></p>
<p><strong>The second “hope”, three years later:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<h3><strong>Reuters &#8211; 2009-10-07 &#8211; Vatican ruling on disputed Medjugorje shrine expected soon</strong></h3>
<p>By <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/07/vatican-ruling-on-disputed-medjugorje-shrine-expected-soon/">Adam Tanner</a> – 2009-10-07</p>
<p>[…] After observing events sceptically for many years, the Vatican may soon issue firmer guidance for Catholics on the claim that the mother of Jesus has been visiting the Balkans, Cardinal <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinko_Pulji%C4%87">Vinko Puljic</a>, head of the bishops’ conference in Bosnia, told Reuters in an interview on Tuesday. That guidance, if it clearly expresses the scepticism the official Church has long shown towards the Medjugorje phenomenon, could deal a serious blow to a site some Catholics see as a “new Lourdes.”</p>
<p>“We are now awaiting a new directive on this issue,” said Puljic, the Sarajevo archbishop who survived the city’s long wartime siege in the 1990s. “I don’t think we must wait for a long time, I think it will be this year, but that is not clear… I am going to Rome in November and we must discuss this.” […]</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>The third puzzling announcement – six weeks later:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<h3><strong>CNA &#8211; 2009-11-20 &#8211; Bosnian Cardinal denies claims of Vatican commission for Medjugorje</strong></h3>
<p>Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Nov 20, 2009 / 11:45 am (<a href="http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/bosnian_cardinal_denies_claims_of_vatican_commission_for_medjugorje/">CNA</a>).</p>
<div id="attachment_1460" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 190px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2009_Abp._Sarajevo.jpg"><img class="wp-image-1460 " title="Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2009_Abp._Sarajevo" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Vinko_Cardinal_Puljic_2009_Abp._Sarajevo-300x237.jpg" alt="Cardinal Vinko Puljic - Abp. of Sarajevo - 2009" width="180" height="142" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cardinal Vinko Puljic - Abp. of Sarajevo - 2009</p></div>
<p>Cardinal Vinko Puljic, Archbishop of Sarajevo and President of the Bishops’ Conference of Bosnia and Herzegovina <span style="text-decoration: underline;">denied press reports yesterday </span>which claim that the Vatican is creating a commission to investigate the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje.</p>
<p>The cardinal, who is visiting Rome to attend the plenary session of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, of which he is a member, said that the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is neither preparing a document nor establishing a special commission to study the Medjugorje apparitions.</span></p>
<p>Cardinal Puljic said that the official position of the bishops of Bosnia and Herzegovina is the one expressed by the then Bishops’ Conference of Yugoslavia in April 1991.</p>
<p>That statement not only expressed the episcopate’s support to then-Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar – where the town of Medjugorje is located &#8211; but explicitly said that, “based on previous research, it cannot be affirmed that these events concerning apparitions and revelations are of supernatural nature.”</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">“The doctrinal issue of the Medjugorje phenomenon is resolved, but its pastoral significance must still be taken into account,” the cardinal continued.</span></p>
<p>“The Medjugorje phenomenon is not only gathering faithful from Bosnia, but from all over the world, and in places where people gather to pray, God gives his blessing. Therefore, we should carefully examine all sides of this phenomenon,” he added.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Nevertheless, he reiterated, “for the moment, everything is under the jurisdiction of the local bishops.” </span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">“Still, at any given moment, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith could establish an International Commission in order to study the case of Medjugorje,” the cardinal remarked.</span> […] [underlined by LB]</p></blockquote>
<p>According to Cardinal Vinko Puljic, still President of the BiH Bishops’ Conference in 2009, the CDF is “neither preparing a document nor establishing a special commission to study the Medjugorje apparitions,” as he seemed to hope six weeks earlier.</p>
<p>Is it not puzzling that the head of the Bishop’s Conference concerned by the Medjugorje case does not “appear to know” in advance that the establishment of a special commission <a href="http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2010/03/establishment-of-international.html">will be announced four months later</a>? <strong>Why?</strong></p>
<p>It seemed, at that time, that the CDF wanted to proceed “its own way”, without having the “local bishops” in control of, at least, the “communiqués”.</p>
<p><strong>For now, we don’t know yet if Cardinal Vinko Puljic’s last announcement is the projection of “hasty hope” or &#8220;need&#8221; as he formulated it, or the expression of an &#8220;informal spokesperson&#8221; of the Commission&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>*****</p>
<p><strong>However, some other declarations from Sarajevo’s Archbishop have proven factual and are giving cause for concern, such as this one:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: right;"><a href="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/sinodo/documents/bollettino_20_x-ordinaria-2001/02_inglese/b17_02.html#H. Em. Card. Vinko PULJI‚, Archbishop of Vrhbosna, President of the Episcopal Conference (Bosnia-Herzegovina)">2001-10-09</a> &#8211; <em>Synodus Episcoporum Bulletin</em> of the Commission for information of the X ordinary general assembly of the synod of bishops 30 September-27 October 2001 &#8211; H. Em. Card. Vinko PULJIC, Archbishop of Vrhbosna, President of the Episcopal Conference (Bosnia-Herzegovina)</p>
<p style="text-align: right;">As pertains to the Church in Bosnia-Herzegovina, its Shepherds commit themselves, together with their priests, consecrated persons and faithful laity, to make their witness become the leaven of society and to make it possible to transmit the light of the Gospel into the economic, social and political realities of their Nation. While most of the consecrated persons operating on the territory of the local ecclesial districts remain faithful to the charism of their Institutes and commit themselves without reservation to the promotion of apostolic works, for the good of the Church and civic society;</p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">unfortunately, certain members of the Order of Franciscan Friars Minor and those expelled try to impose their own points of view in the individual Dioceses, substituting the authentic charisms of their Institute with pseudo-charisms, a serious threat for the Church and for her organizational and doctrinal unity.</span> […] [underlined by <a name="LB"></a>LB]</p>
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<p>A concrete example of “pseudo-charism” would be the illustration given by the former Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic, in his 1990 published <em><a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2008/09/truth-about-medjugorje-by-bishop-pavao.html">The Truth About Medjugorje.</a></em> At Nr. 17, one can read an <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/the-gospa-demonizes-the-bishop.html">edifying message</a> from the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/09/30/medjupedia-a-pause-%e2%94%80-the-construction-of-the-%e2%80%9clady-of-medjugorje%e2%80%9d/#Lady">Lady of Medjugorje</a> given to the visionary Ivan, as Fr. Tomislav Vlasic was the visionaries’ spiritual leader:</p>
<blockquote><p>17. &#8220;Tell the bishop that I seek a quick conversion from him towards the happenings in Medjugorje before it&#8217;s too late. May he accept these events with plenty of love, understanding and great responsibility.</p>
<p>I want him to avoid creating conflicts between priests and to stop publicizing their negative behaviors. The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Herzegovina.</p>
<p>For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgment and the judgment of my Son await the bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our Lady told me to give you this message.</p>
<p>Bijakovici                                                                                                   With greetings,</p>
<p>June 21, 1983.                                                                                         <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Message-Lady-of-Medjugorje-to-Bishop-via-Ivan-www_dot_marcocorvaglia_dot_com_Gospa_instigation_to_insubordination.jpg">Ivan Dragicevic</a></p>
<p>Rev. Tomislav Vlasic brought this document to me, which he more than likely wrote himself in a moment of exaltation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Contrary to what Medjugorje propagandists want the faithful to believe, Fr. Tomislav Vlasic had an important and deep influence on the visionaries and on the “spiritual destiny” of the parish during the indoctrination period between 1981 and 1985. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/02/09/medjugorje-the-unbearable-sadness-of-duping-the-faithful-2-fr-laurentins-fabrication-concerning-the-father-of-a-nuns-child-part-1-the-libel-4/">Frs. Laurentin, Pelletier and O’Carroll</a> acknowledged those facts: <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_Ren%C3%A9_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_appara%C3%AEt-Elle_%C3%A0_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04.jpg">“<em>trainer and spiritual leader</em>”</a>, “<em>he fulfilled the major roles of spiritual director and of unofficial mouth piece of the seers</em>”, “<em>he has been the discerning, intuitive, spiritual guide of the visionaries through the first three years; he was also their interpreter and protector</em>.”</p>
<p>The said leader has been the <em>éminence grise</em> of the Lady of Medjugorje and the visionaries’ inspirer, the main protagonist of a “serious threat for the Church and for her organizational and doctrinal unity”.</p>
<p>Let us guess that that particular state of things did not and does not escape the vigilance and discernment of the Archbishop Cardinal of Sarajevo and of the experts of the Commission.</p>
<p>Cordially,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
<p>[Special thanks to Richard Chonak for the <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/02/cardinal-puljic.html">translation of the ASCA communiqué</a> and to <a href="http://te-deum.blogspot.com/2012/02/medjugorje-commission-to-end-its-work.html">Diane Korzeniewski</a>, <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/news-external-links.html">Marco Corvaglia</a> and <a href="http://theotokosbooks.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/medjugorje-in-defense-of-bishop-zanic/">Donal Foley</a> for their presentation and referencing of recent articles defending the integrity of the late Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic.]</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Preliminary note  The content of the present article is of a delicate nature. A research about a gross fabrication involving two priests &#8212; an internationally known mariologist and a formerly attached Franciscan to Medjugorje who is the father of a nun’s child &#8212; has to be led with great precaution and all the necessary documented [...]]]></description>
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<p> The content of the present article is of a delicate nature. A research about a gross fabrication involving two priests &#8212; an internationally known mariologist and a formerly attached Franciscan to Medjugorje who is the father of a nun’s child &#8212; has to be led with great precaution and all the necessary documented proofs to avoid the danger of calumnies.</p>
<p>The integrity of the former Ordinary of Mostar, the late Bishop Pavao Zanic, is at stake.</p>
<p>Since 1986, Fr. René Laurentin’s version of “immoral acts committed by a Franciscan” is haunting the news and bitter discussions related to the so-called Marian apparitions in Bosnia-<a name="Herzegovina"></a>Herzegovina.</p>
<p>I heard of that affair for the first time in the summer of 1986, as I visited Fr. Ivo Sivric in St. Louis (Mo). I brought with me a <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">12-page French brochure</a> dated January 1986 [<em>Rapport de la Commission scientifique internationale franco-italienne: étude des voyants des apparitions de Medjugorje (extrait du rapport)</em>] released by Fr. Laurentin (Fr. RL) during a conference he pronounced in Montreal on the 4th of July. [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">source 11</a></em>]</p>
<p>In that report appeared for the first time, to my knowledge, an allusion to the “T. affair” &#8212; “T” for the first initial of a nun’s child. On p. 6, under the heading “Conclusions théologiques”, there appears a <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_B_p_6.jpg"><em>Nota bene</em>,<em> </em>with Fr. RL’s style</a>, but not signed, according to which</p>
<blockquote><p>“The Bishop of Mostar, who has gone through the remotest past of persons favorable to Medjugorje, thinks to have found a weakness in the life of one of them. […] However, the alleged fact dating from 9 years ago should not be taken into account as a negative sign against the apparitions.” Indeed, according to the <em><a href="http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/appdisce/cdftexte.html" class="broken_link">1978 Norms</a></em>, “gravely immoral acts committed by the subject, or his associates,” ought to be committed “at the time of the facts, or on the occasion of these facts” [On or after June 24, 1981]. […]</p></blockquote>
<p>I then asked Fr. Sivric if he had heard of the “weakness” of a person “favorable to Medjugorje”. He was reluctant to comment on that matter because he thought that it had to remain a “strictly private affair”. When I showed him the said brochure, it was enough to convince him that I should know the truth about the matter.</p>
<p>After my return to Canada, I read <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">Fr. RL’s 104-page French booklet</a> (July 1986) where he exposed on p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_50.jpg">50</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_51.jpg">51</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">52</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_53.jpg">53</a> his version of the ins and outs of the “T. affair”. [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">source 12</a></em>]</p>
<div id="attachment_1447" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 380px"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_René_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_apparaît-Elle_à_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-1447    " title="Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_René_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_apparaît-Elle_à_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04]" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_visionary_Vicka_Ivankovic_Fr_René_Laurentin_Medjugorje_Christmas_1983_from_La_Vierge_apparaît-Elle_à_Medjugorje_1984_p22_red_cap04.jpg" alt="Fr Tomislav Vlasic, visionary Vicka_Ivankovic, Fr. René Laurentin - Medjugorje, Christmas 1983 from La Vierge apparaît-Elle à Medjugorje? - 1984, p. 22" width="370" height="760" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fr Tomislav Vlasic, visionary Vicka_Ivankovic, Fr. René Laurentin - Medjugorje, Christmas 1983 from La Vierge apparaît-Elle à Medjugorje? - 1984, p. 22</p></div>
<p>Fr. Laurentin alleged that the Ordinary of Mostar was calumniating a certain Franciscan related to Medjugorje by falsely disseminating “all over the world” that the persecuted priest was the father of a nun’s child.  <a name="complete"></a> The mariologist assured that he possessed<em> </em>“<em>the <strong>complete dossier on the affair, patiently collated</strong></em>,” [“<em>Je le fais en possession du dossier complet de l’affaire, patiemment collationné</em>” (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>)].</p>
<p>Those statements triggered my request to Mgr Zanic for his documentation on the case, for the sake of “complete” comparison between the two versions. I received primary sources in 1987 and could complete my investigation with the necessary interviews in 1988, shortly after the publication of the French edition of <em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/the-hidden-side-of-medjugorje/">The Hidden Side of Medjugorje</a>.</em> [<em><a href="http://louisbelanger.com/la-face-cachee-de-medjugorje/">La face cachée de Medjugorje</a></em>].</p>
<p>Then Editor of <em>Fidelity Magazine</em>, E. Michael Jones, contacted Fr. Ivo Sivric and me, having read our French edition published in April and reviewed by the journalist Suzanne M. Rini in their September 1988 issue (p. 42-46). We had hours of telephone conversations, I sent him numerous documents and he visited me in Montreal. He published “The Untold Story” in the September (p. 15-41) and October (20-36) issues of his magazine based mostly on my research material on the “T. affair”, my observations on <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/10/20/medjugorje-the-grand-concealment-2-three-more-days-duplicity-rene-laurentin/">Fr. Laurentin’s falsifications</a>, Fr. Ivo Sivric’s research + published material and our transcriptions of the taped interviews in 1981 by the Medjugorje pastoral personnel with the visionaries. He completed his compilation with the field research led by Mrs. Rini who generously translated <em>La face cachée… </em>into <em>The Hidden Side of Medjugorje</em> published in 1989. The two articles were also released in a book form by Fidelity Press with the title <em>Medjugorje: The Untold Story</em>.</p>
<p>Time passed with the third Commission accomplishing its work, the <a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2008/09/zadar-declaration-1991.html">Zadar declaration</a> (<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Kingham_2007_title_abstract_extract_meaning_Non_constat_de_supernaturalitate-.jpg">non constat de supernaturalitate</a></em>), the war in Yugoslavia, the <a href="http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/2009/09/what-did-archbishop-bertone-really-say.html">confirmation of the <em>non constat</em> by the CDF</a>, <a href="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bzanic.html">Mgr Zanic’s death</a> and the <a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=228">sanction against the said Franciscan</a> by the Holy See through a Decree of the CDF “for the diffusion of dubious doctrine, manipulation of consciences, suspected mysticism, disobedience towards legitimately issued orders and charges contra sextum”.</p>
<p>The recent turn of events led by Medjugorje propagandists forced me to bring my grain of salt in that particular debate in <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2012/01/20/mgr-pavao-zanic-a-principled-opponent-of-communism-and-of-fabricated-medjugorje-apparitions/">honoring the memory of Mgr Zanic</a> &#8212; Marco Corvaglia has published two well searched articles &#8220;<a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/facts-and-documents-1.html">The Communists and the Bishop</a>&#8221; (<a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/medjugorje-the-communists-and-the-bishop.html">part 1</a> and <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/the-communists-and-the-bishop-part-2.html">part 2</a>) on the same topic &#8212; and by publishing the results of my 23 year-old research.</p>
<p>According to Zarko Ivkovic, member of a team of four <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">Croatian journalists</a>, Mgr Zanic has been a “tool” of the former Yugoslav secret police (UDBA) in calumniating a persecuted Franciscan. Those allegations have been uncritically <a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">transmitted</a> by <a href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Tornielli">journalist-vaticanist</a> <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/">Andrea Tornielli</a>. They imply that the Ordinary of Mostar “was willing to accept any document against the Franciscans and against the apparitions, even if of dubious origin.” I <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7562">criticized</a> Mr. Tornielli by observing that he didn’t “document” anything, didn’t verify anything and copied/pasted very serious allegations without granting his readers any factual historical retrospective.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the Editor of <em>Medjugorje Today</em> has been more specific on the origin of the accusations against the persecuted Franciscan. <a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/1319/medjugorje-critics-parrot-old-communist-lies/">According to Jakob Marschner</a>, who “<em><a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/about/">has worked with the apparitions</a> in Medjugorje since 1999</em>”,</p>
<blockquote><p>“The Communist power-holders of the then Yugoslavia invented slanderous stories about him [Fr. Tomislav Vlasic], claiming he had fathered a child. Though the accusations were proven false long ago, Medjugorje critics still repeat the claim whose Communist origin is now coming to the light in a new documentary book [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Ivkovic_et_al_Mystery_of_Medjugorje_2011_with_interview_Card._Schönborn.jpg">Misterij Medjugorja</a></em>] that details how the officialYugoslavia sought to destroy Medjugorje.”</p>
<p>“Part of the strategy on behalf of the secret police was informing the then Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar about the accusations against Fr. Vlasic. Bishop Zanic reacted by broadcasting the accusations against Fr. Vlasic all around the world”…</p></blockquote>
<p>What are we supposed to <a name="believe"></a>believe?</p>
<p>-          Laurentin’s unsubstantiated old version condemning Mgr Zanic for having invented Fr. Tomislav Vlasic’s paternity with a nun? Could that be just another one of the eminent expert’s stories perpetrating gross falsifications of historical documents, as I have pointed out in the Prologue of <em>The Hidden Side of Medjugorje</em> (1989: <em>Lifting the Veil of Artifice</em> &#8211; p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_09.jpg">9</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_10.jpg">10</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_11.jpg">11</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_12.jpg">12</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_13.jpg">13</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_14.jpg">14</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_p_15.jpg">15</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Lifting-the-veil-of-artifice_Prologue_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Conclusion.jpg">19</a>, notes-p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_Notes_p_21.jpg">21</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_Notes_p_22.jpg">22</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Prologue_Lifting_the_Veil_of_Artifice_The_Hidden_Side_of_Medjugorje_1989_Louis_Bélanger_Notes_p_23.jpg">23</a>) and here, on <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/10/20/medjugorje-the-grand-concealment-2-three-more-days-duplicity-rene-laurentin/">medjupedia</a>?</p>
<p>-          Or the unsubstantiated claims of the Yugoslav secret police of having invented Fr. Tomislav Vlasic’s paternity with a nun and manipulated a naïve bishop to spread the bad news for them? Should we commend the journalists Ivkovic/Tornielli/Marschner for &#8220;unveiling that mystery&#8221; of Medjugorje?</p>
<p>Time has come to put the record straight.</p>
<p>We will meticulously examine the version written in 1986 by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL) of the “T. affair”. Its new twist &#8212; the communist spy fiction &#8212; will fall by itself.</p>
<p>In contrast with Fr. Laurentin’s version, the actual facts will be submitted to the readers with the help of primary sources of which I will reproduce pertinent excerpts.</p>
<p>The protagonists &#8212; public or private &#8212; are identified by their real initials. The complete names of some private protagonists are not revealed for the sake of discretion.</p>
<p><strong>*******</strong></p>
<p><strong>My sources</strong></p>
<p>1. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_01_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_to_Sr_RK_1976-12-07.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1976-12-07 - from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK</a> (nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</p>
<p>2. Letter &#8211; 1977-01-09 - from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to Sr. RK (nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25)</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">Letter &#8211; 1977-01-before the 25th &#8211; from Sr. RK (nun, mother of a child to be born on 1977-01-25) to Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV)</a></p>
<p>4. Letter &#8211; 1981-12-15 - from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost five-year-old boy)</p>
<p>5. Letter &#8211; 1982-05-15 - from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a five-year-old boy)</p>
<p>6. Letter &#8211; 1983-05-15 - from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) to MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a six-year-old boy)</p>
<p>7. Letter &#8211; 1984-11-?? &#8211; apparently from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., a seven-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar (Bp. PZ)</p>
<p>8. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">Report &#8211; 1985-11-?? - (private and strictly confidential) from the Ordinariate of Mostar</a> (Bp. PZ)</p>
<p>9. Letter &#8211; 1985-11-26 - from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar (Bp. PZ)</p>
<p>10. Letter &#8211; 1985-12-26 from MK (former Sr. RK, mother of T., an almost nine-year-old boy) to Fr. Ivan Dugandzic, (Fr. ID) Franciscan member of the Diocesan Commission</p>
<p>11. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">Brochure in French released by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-01</a> (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_B_p_6.jpg">p. 6</a>)</p>
<p>12. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">Booklet in French authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL), 1986-07</a> (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_50.jpg">50</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_51.jpg">51</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">52</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_53.jpg">53</a>)</p>
<p>13. Letter &#8211; 1986-10-31 - from Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar (Bp. PZ) to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</p>
<p>14. Letter &#8211; 1986-12-01 - from A-M.O to members of a student help organization he founded.</p>
<p>15. Handwriting comparison analysis &#8211; 1987-05-22 - of four documents written by Sr. RK/MK  (mother of T.)</p>
<p>16. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_cover.jpg">Booklet in English authored by Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL)</a>, 1987 (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_40.jpg">40</a>-<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_p_41.jpg">41</a>, partial translation of <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">12</a>)</p>
<p>17. Transcribed notes &#8211; 1988-08-04 - of a telephone conversation between Fr. René Laurentin (Fr. RL) and Louis Bélanger (LB)</p>
<p>18. Letter &#8211; 1988-08-31 - from Louis Bélanger to MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.)</p>
<p>19. <a name="LB" href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_Bélanger_LB_Source_19.jpg"></a>Letter &#8211; 1988-09-15 -  from MP (former Franciscan living in the U.S.) to Louis Bélanger (LB)</p>
<p><strong>*******</strong></p>
<p><strong>René Laurentin’s version of the “T. affair”</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Phase 1, January 1986: immoral act possible, by a Franciscan formerly attached to Medjugorje, but technically not affecting the “apparitions”. Bishop of Mostar presented as inquisitor </strong>(“The Bishop of Mostar, who has gone through the remotest past of persons favorable to Medjugorje…”) [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_A_title.jpg">source 11</a>, p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_1_source_11_B_p_6.jpg">6</a></em>]<strong>.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p>As we have seen in the preliminary note, Fr. René Laurentin [Fr. RL] is the first chronicler to have informed the public on the “T. affair”. He does not reveal the name of the said Franciscan neither does he deny the existence of a possible “immoral act” attributed to that Franciscan. If true, according to Fr. RL, it precedes the beginning of the Medjugorje events and it is not in anyway connected to them. That “Phase 1” version constitutes the unique one presented in the English translation [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_16_Laurentin_Apparitions_at_Medjugorje_Prolonged_1987_cover.jpg">source 16</a></em>] of the original French booklet [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">source 12</a></em>].</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Phase 2, July 1986: immoral act certain, but not originating from the said Franciscan formerly attached to Medjugorje. The nun/mother of the child “has made problems in three successive convents”. The “presumed father of the child quit the Franciscan Order and left for the USA where he married after reduction to the lay state”. “May those precisions kill the defamation maintained with the help of confusion”! </strong>[…]<strong> “Truth is the one and only means to get out of that proliferation of false rumors.” The Bishop of Mostar presented as slanderer/defamer </strong>(“Mgr Zanic made the accusation openly” against the priest that he had already condemned as mystifier, manipulator of consciences, etc…) (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_51.jpg">p. 51</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>For those who were familiar with the Medjugorje case, it was clear that the Franciscan “targeted” by the Ordinary of Mostar was Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV). The open accusation by the mariologist against Mgr Zanic was very serious and could have devastating consequences for the Bishop of Mostar’s legitimate authority.</p>
<p><strong>Fr. Laurentin’s sources</strong></p>
<p>Unfortunately, the mariologist does not submit his sources, which implies that we have to believe him and hope that his documentation is reliable and valid.</p>
<p>RL assures us that he “<em>possesses the complete dossier on the affair, patiently collated</em>,” [“<em>Je le fais en possession du dossier complet de l’affaire, patiemment collationné</em>” (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>)].</p>
<p>Assertion 1 corresponds to the truth: [“statement in accord with verified fact”]</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Truth</strong> – “A Croatian Franciscan nun has given birth to a child on January 25, 1977, and has been relieved of her vows.” (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Assertion 2 constitutes a rumor [“statement without known authority for its truth” – Webster]</p>
<blockquote><p><strong> </strong><strong>Rumor</strong> - The nun/mother of the child “has made problems in three successive convents”. (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Explanation:</p>
<p>Laurentin offers no proof. Moreover, in a letter he wrote to me &#8212; he had known her very well &#8212; <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_Bélanger_LB_Source_19_p_3_I_never_heard.jpg">MP denied the truthfulness of that assertion.</a> [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_Bélanger_LB_Source_19.jpg">source 19</a></em>] We learn more about RL’s ethical sense than about his afflicted target.</p>
<p>Assertion 3 constitutes a fabrication: [“lie” or “untrue statement with intent to <a name="deceive"></a>deceive”]</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Fabrication - </strong>“The presumed father of the child quit the Franciscan Order and left for the USA where he married after reduction to the lay state”. (<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Explanation:</p>
<p>a) The exchange of correspondence between Fr. Tomislav Vlasic (Fr. TV) and MK (former Sr. RK, mother of a boy) and other primary sources [1 to 9 + 14 + 19] show unequivocally that Fr. TV is the father of the child. MK writes to Fr. TV in January 1977, a few days before giving birth to T.: “Who is going to take care of myself? Besides, I am hiding from my relatives like a snake. Tomo (diminutive for “Tomislav”), don’t aggravate yourself, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03_p2_I_will_not_reveal_your_identity.jpg">I won’t reveal your identity to anybody – at least not for the time being.</a> I will let you know if I reveal you to anybody.” [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1977-01-before_the_25th_-from_Sr_RK_mother_of_a_child_to_be_born_on_1977-01-25_to_Fr_Tomislav_Vlasic_Source_03.jpg">source 3</a></em>] Hence, the father is in no way “presumed”.</p>
<p>b) Laurentin’s fabrication consists in attributing the paternity to another Franciscan [MP] who quit the Order for the U.S. where he married. [<em>sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_8_pop.jpg">8</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_13_pop.jpg">13</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">18</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_19_pop.jpg">19</a></em>] The mariologist doesn’t mention MP&#8217;s name or initials and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_Bélanger_LB_Source_19_p_2_never_got_in_touch_with_me.jpg">never got in touch with MP, the so-called “presumed father”.</a> [<em>sources <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_17_pop.jpg">17</a> (p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_03.jpg">3</a>, p. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_16_Transcribed-notes-1988-08-04-of-a-telephone-conversation-between-Fr.-Ren%C3%A9-Laurentin-and-Louis-B%C3%A9langer_page_04.jpg">4</a>), <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Source_18_pop.jpg">18</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Letter_1988-09-15_-from_MP_former_Franciscan_living_in_-the_U.S.A._-to_Louis_Bélanger_LB_Source_19.jpg">19</a></em>]</p>
<p>What kind of truthfulness can we expect from the writings of an historian who, when justifying <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2010/01/bp-peric-on-the.html">visionary Ivan’s lie to the second Commission</a>, unveiled his “agenda” with the help of a rumor concerning a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domenico_Tardini">former Holy See’s “Prime minister”</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is it necessary to speak of as lies the diplomatic words spoken in a difficult and intimidating situation? Who is able, in similar circumstances, to scrape through without ambiguity?  “It happened to me that I had to lie,” said Secretary of State, Cardinal Tardini at the end of his life. “But it was necessary for the good of the Church.” This reflection which honors his clear-mindedness does not tarnish his memory at all. (<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentin_R_1985_Medjugorje_à_l_heure_de_la_désinformation_Autopsie_des_fausses_nouvelles_Dernières_nouvelles_No_2_cover.jpg">Dernières nouvelles…</a> </em>[Latest News…] Nr. 2, 1985, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentin_R_1985_Medjugorje_à_l_heure_de_la_désinformation_Autopsie_des_fausses_nouvelles_Dernières_nouvelles_No_2_p_34.jpg">p. 34</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, the indefatigable mariologist is busy at the ministry of Truth. His <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwellian">Orwellian</a> style converts a lie into a truth. “May those precisions kill the defamation maintained with the help of confusion”! […] “Truth is the one and only means to get out of that proliferation of false rumors.” [<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_53.jpg">p. 53</a>]</p>
<p>Laurentin’s “truth”, in making MP the father of the child, “kills” the “defamation” against Tomislav Vlasic and, for the good of the Medjugorje Franciscans’ agenda &#8212; and of the Italian travel agencies &#8212; imperils the credibility of the legitimate diocesan authority which uncovered the “mystery of mysteries” of Medjugorje and could stop the masquerade.</p>
<p>In passing, I submit two questions on “<a href="http://legaldefinitions.co/defamation.html" class="broken_link">defamation</a>” involving a “false statement that injures someone’s reputation and exposes him/her to public contempt, hatred, ridicule, or condemnation.”</p>
<p>If, after examining the evidence, it shows that Fr. Laurentin and other journalists and vaticanists knowingly &#8212; or without professionally verifying available sources &#8212; published false statements that injured Mgr Zanic’s reputation and exposed him or his memory to public contempt, hatred, and condemnation, is it not precisely <em>defamation</em> against the Bishop of Mostar that they engaged in? Did the priest/pastor/theologian/mariologist/journalist and his “followers” measure the grave consequences of such actions upon the behavior of the faithful who put their trust in some experts’ or communicators&#8217; integrity and were &#8212; and still are &#8212; led to distrust the local Church legitimate authority?</p>
<p>And all that without <a title="Benedict XVI - 2011-10-02 ...love for knowledge and truth." href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Benedict_XVI_love_for_knowledge_and_truth_06.jpg">considering</a></p>
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<p>- what <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/02/08/medjugorje-de-veritate-nunquam-satis-concerning-truth-one-can-never-say-enough/">Benedict XVI is thinking about consequentialism</a> (“the end justifies the means”):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Educational work seems to be becoming ever more arduous because, in a culture which all too often makes relativism its creed, the light of truth is lacking. Indeed, it is considered dangerous even to speak about truth, thus instilling doubt about the basic values of individual and community life.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>- <a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20111208_xlv-world-day-peace_en.html">how convinced is the Pope</a> that we must</p>
<blockquote><p><em>move beyond the relativistic horizon and come to know the truth about [oneself] and the truth about good and evil. Deep within his conscience, man discovers a law that he did not lay upon himself, but which he must obey. Its voice calls him to love and to do what is good, to avoid evil and to take responsibility for the good he does and the evil he commits.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>- <a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2010/october/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20101007_pccs_en.html">the responsibility involved in social communications</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>there is the connotation of &#8220;Catholic&#8221;, with the responsibility that derives from it of being explicitly and essentially faithful, through the daily commitment to taking the highway of the truth. The quest for the truth must be pursued by Catholic journalists with passionate minds and hearts, but also with the professionalism of competent operators, equipped with adequate and efficient means.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The recent turn of events brings together a new breed of thurifers &#8212; <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">Croatian journalists</a> and <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/">some vaticanists</a> &#8212; who, in continuity with Fr. Laurentin’s instigations, appear hoping to twist the Pope’s arm to bless Medjugorje. They submit communist documents &#8212; with their proverbial &#8220;truthfulness&#8221; originating from the Yugoslav secret service &#8212; that will be “<a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">scrutinized by the Holy See committee</a> called upon to pronounce itself on Medjugorje, which two years ago Benedict XVI entrusted to the leadership of Cardinal Camillo Ruini.”</p>
<p>That is good news for truth seekers. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger &#8212; former Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and actual Pope Benedict XVI &#8212; has had in his hands, and <a name="most"></a>most probably examined, some of the important primary sources quoted above that have been translated from Croatian into German. Let us read how that happened, as narrated by Bishop Pavao Zanic in his private report [<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">source 8</a></em>]. I have left Fr. Ivo Sivric’s dictated translation (1986) untouched. The complete names of some protagonists are not revealed for the sake of <a name="discretion"></a>discretion.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"> <strong>Strictly confidential &#8211; The role of Fr. Tomislav Vlasic in Medjugorje</strong></p>
<p align="center"><strong>November 1985 </strong>[<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Source_08_Report_1985-11_private_from_the_Ordinariate_of_Mostar_Bp_-PZ.jpg">source 8</a></em>]</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr.Tomislav-Vlasic-behind-visionaries-Ivan-Marija-Vicka-1985-01-13-Medjugorje-Chapel-of-apparitions-Photo-Louis-Bélanger-medjupedia_com-2012.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1434" title="Fr.Tomislav Vlasic behind visionaries Ivan, Marija, Vicka 1985-01-13 Medjugorje - ''Chapel of apparitions'' Photo Louis Bélanger medjupedia_com 2012" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Fr.Tomislav-Vlasic-behind-visionaries-Ivan-Marija-Vicka-1985-01-13-Medjugorje-Chapel-of-apparitions-Photo-Louis-Bélanger-medjupedia_com-2012.jpg" alt="Fr. Tomislav Vlasic - Medjugorje - 1985-01-13" width="301" height="182" /></a>In 1981, Fr. Tomislav Vlasic came to Medjugorje without any approval. The bishop heard that he had a child and some other incidents in connection with it but he was unable to prove it and remained silent. In 1983, one Franciscan from Herzegovina told him <a name="about"></a>about it.</p>
<p>In November 1984, the bishop received from Germany a letter in which a lady by name M. says that she had a child with Fr. Tomislav Vlasic by name T. who attends school already. She begs the bishop to go to see Fr.Tomislav who did not write to her lately and that he reminds him that he has also to care for the child. M. did not sign either her surname or <a name="address"></a>address.</p>
<p>Shortly afterwards, the bishop went to Germany and located M. by Mr. A-M. O. in S., near Munich. M. denied that she wrote the letter. But it was clear that there was some sort of manipulation which imposed on her to speak so. The bishop remained for the dinner by M. and later on little T. came home from school; he looked exactly like Fr. Tomislav.</p>
<p>The old Mr. O. lost his wife and her child in WW1, and in 1976, his second wife died and he remained by himself when he was 86 years old. After the war [WW2], he was the “father” of poor students &#8212; he was a great altruist &#8212; and he was known to Cardinal Ratzinger.</p>
<p>Nine years earlier, when they telephoned him and asked him if he would take on board and room a girl just before she was to deliver a baby, and if he would not accept her, then she would be forced to go to Australia. He accepted her, even though he did not know a word of Croatian neither she of German. Two Franciscans brought her from Herzegovina.</p>
<p>On January 25, 1977, T. was born. M. never told Mr. O. who was the father of the boy nor did she tell him that she was a former nun. She did not want to say that to the bishop either. M. was on the board by Mr. O., and after several years, he got her a job through some individuals from the government of Bavaria where she legalized her residence and she worked for a small wage. Mr. O. considered M. as his own daughter and little T. as his dear grandson.</p>
<p>After the bishop left, O. started to think and question. Why was the bishop by M.? Then he searched for some photocopied letters from earlier that someone translated for him in German and he learned that M. was a former nun by name RK and that the father of the boy was Fr. Tomislav Vlasic. This saddened him extremely.</p>
<p>He wrote a letter of ten pages about M. and the boy whom he loved very much and about some male voice who would hang up the receiver of the telephone whenever he would <a name="answer"></a>answer.</p>
<p>That and another letter of M. and some letters of Fr. Tomislav Vlasic he sent to Cardinal Ratzinger for the Commission on Medjugorje.</p>
<p>By the end of 1985, the bishop visited Cardinal Ratzinger who gave him this documentation for the Commission. Cardinal Ratzinger told him the history of Mr. O. and his family.</p>
<p>After the bishop left, the other party became disturbed. It was obvious that somebody forced M. to negate that she wrote to the bishop. [“Then, two Franciscan fathers of Herzegovina went to the U.S. to ask the former Fr. P. to take the responsibility upon himself for the fatherhood of the boy. P. was in Zagreb with Fr. Tomislav when Sr. R. became pregnant and they wanted to put the responsibility upon him.…” = that controversial statement will be discussed when MP will be presented in <em>Part 2 – The Facts</em> – Remark by LB] Perhaps Mr. O. told M. what he wrote to Cardinal Ratzinger and about persons behind M.</p>
<p>She left S. and went to A.</p>
<p>M. wrote a very rude letter to the bishop against O. who took her off the street when she was in a most difficult situation, uncared for before the delivery of the baby. She left him alone when he was 94 years old, sick and almost totally blind.</p>
<p>The same day of her letter, the letter of Mr. O. also arrived full of sadness. Even though the letters which Mr. O. copied clearly speak who the father of the boy was, M. still says that’s a secret which belongs to her and to God.</p>
<p>This write up we are multiplying under the title “strictly confidential” and we are giving it to those who are preoccupied with Medjugorje writing and trying to prove that the Gospa is appearing there. We are trying to open their eyes that they may see who is standing behind the visionaries, who is that “Gospa” which speaks and sends messages to the entire world. That’s the “school” or direct words from Fr. Tomislav Vlasic.</p>
<p>When it happened that he became the father of a child, when he actually threw into the street a religious woman, he could have abandoned religious status then to take care of her and the baby, or the whole thing over to the care of the administration of his province and then he might have gone some place where nobody would have asked about him and then remain humble religious or assistant or pastor.</p>
<p>In this way, he built up the first pulpit in the world from which he is sending messages to the entire world, to the bishop, to the pope, getting from that a tremendous moral and material support and his defenders speak over his high sanctity which is again one more proof for the authenticity of the apparitions.</p>
<p>Therefore, in the interest of the truth and in the defense of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Holy Church, it is necessary to put all this to the knowledge at least to those who blindly believe whatever Fr. T. Vlasic says.</p>
<p>The final judgment on Medjugorje is not going to be positive. Fr. T. Vlasic with his extremely irresponsible work during several years brought himself, the visionaries, the faithful, the entire Church to the verge of shame, whose enormity nobody can perceive.</p>
<p>The inner division of the faithful, the tension among those who believe in these apparitions and those who do not believe, is especially a grave sin and the negation of the fabricated title: “The Queen of Peace”. The Gospa is the Queen of Peace but here, the title is misused in propaganda purposes and it became the cause of unrest.</p>
<p>The Franciscan Province is divided, the diocese is divided, the entire world is divided; they hastened with private revelations, secrets, big sign, threats, miraculous healings, “cures”, everything against the admonitions and orders of the bishop who is the only one authorized in the Church to communicate those things to the world.</p>
<p>This has been done to create a situation in which nobody would dare to say anything against the created opinion. Seemingly enthusiasm might turn into just the opposite and have tragic consequences. May God save us from unrest and scandal!</p>
<p align="right">The Ordinariate of the Bishop &#8211; Mostar</p>
<p align="right"><a name="November"></a>November 1985</p>
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<p>One could blame me for publishing a “strictly confidential” document, or excerpts of other private documents. Here is my justification for doing so.</p>
<p>I refrained from publishing the results of my research until today, 23 years after its completion… But I feel a moral obligation to intervene, now that new disloyal and dishonest attacks &#8212; related to the same poisoned well &#8212; are afflicting the memory of a pastor I have known and admired for his integrity and courage.</p>
<p>An irresponsible priest and author was the first to uncover the affair in his own way, by calumniating a former nun, contemptuously claiming that she had “made problems in three successive convents”<strong> </strong>[<em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_A_title.jpg">source 12</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Laurentins_fabrication_libel_phase_2_source_12_B_p_52.jpg">p. 52</a></em>], and instigating public contempt, hatred and condemnation against the former competent Ordinary of Mostar.</p>
<p>Other irresponsible authors and journalists have publicly drawn their inspiration from that corrupted well, adding a “communist” venom in making the faithful pastor of the Church, Mgr Pavao Zanic, the &#8220;tool of an atheist regime&#8221; &#8212; a supreme affront to a man of God.</p>
<p>How desperate must they be, those Medjugorje propagandists, to resort to such “unchristian” stratagems in lynching a responsible pastor and concealing the truthful reconstruction of historical events?</p>
<p>Taking all things into consideration, no private, confidential, or strictly confidential document can resist to the unveiling of verified, substantiated truth, especially if the aim is to right the public wrong caused by ill-advised public communicators. Especially when I know that the primary sources I submit are already in the dossiers of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for a quarter of a century. The said Congregation doesn’t seem to have intervened with necessary diligence in order to grant the former Bishop of Mostar the dignity and justice he deserved.</p>
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<p>With my cordial greetings,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>Mgr Pavao Zanic: a principled opponent of communism… and of fabricated Medjugorje “apparitions”</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Bélanger</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On the occasion of the recent commemoration, in Mostar, of Mgr Pavao Zanic’s death, his successor, Bishop Ratko Peric, <a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=945">spoke to the faithful</a> &#8221;on the heroic stance of Mgr Zanic towards communist ideology, thereby disproving the recent attacks against his noble Episcopal character&#8221;.</strong></p>
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<h6 style="text-align: right;" align="right">Our readers have already been <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/">informed</a> about an <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">insidious attack by Croatian journalists</a> against the late Ordinary of Mostar. The serious charge has been uncritically <a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">transmitted</a> by <a href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Tornielli">journalist-vaticanist</a> Andrea Tornielli who <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7538">initiated</a>— but abruptly interrupted — an <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7546">exchange</a> in our <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7562">commentaries</a> section.</h6>
<h6 style="text-align: right;" align="right">Shortly before Christmas 2011, Mgr Peric <a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=920">published a response</a> that <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/01/bp-peric-defend.html">Richard Chonak</a> translated from <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=919">Italian</a> into <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=931">English</a>. According to the main accusation, Mgr Zanic was allegedly a collaborator of the Yugoslav secret police [UDBA] and, under communist threats, changed drastically his position on the so-called apparitions of Medjugorje.</h6>
<h6 style="text-align: right;" align="right">As if it were not enough, visionary Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti echoed the allegation in a recently published interview with an Italian journalist. She claimed, without providing any evidence for her arbitrary statement, that the communist police ordered the Bishop to deny the apparitions and Marian faith and so <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/the-communists-and-the-bishop-part-2.html">“Zanic denied everything”</a>.</h6>
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<p><strong>Mgr Peric revealed that he had access, last November 2011, to the secret police reports in connection with Mgr Zanic and Medjugorje:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;None of the 30 documents from the years 1981 to 1988 makes any mention anywhere, of any kind of communist coercion or threats under which Bishop Žanić would have made a “denial” so that nothing would “happen” to him, as the “visionary” “informed” the public in the Italian language.</p>
<p>&#8220;Moreover, in several reports that were sent during these years from the security services of Mostar to their higher offices inSarajevo, it is clear that Bishop Žanić did not want to meet with the President of the Commission for Religious Questions on 14 July 1981.</p>
<p>&#8220;And being a persistent opponent of the communist system, it is explicitly mentioned that he is a “bearer of enemy activity” under number 1 in the documents dated: 31 January 1983; 7 November 1983; 8 December 1983; 4 January 1984; 7 March 1984; 24 April 1986.</p>
<p>&#8220;He was an ideologically principled opponent of communism during all his time in Mostar, from 1971 to 1993.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>The truth shall set you free</strong>. In the miscellany on Bishop Pavao Žanić titled “<em>The Truth shall set you Free</em>”, Mostar 1992, there is an extensive discussion between the editor of this work Fr. Tomo Vukšić, who today is the Military Ordinary of B-H, and Bishop Pavao. The editor put forth the question:</p>
<p>“<em>Many of your homilies contained criticisms of the communist authorities and ideology. I personally oftentimes listened to these criticisms. On what grounds did you base your convictions and courage?</em>”</p>
<p>&#8220;Fr. Tomo was associate pastor of the Cathedral parish of Mostar between 1980 and 1982.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>The Bishop replied</strong>:</p>
<p>“Being a principled opponent of communism – the universal lie – I often took aim against this lie. The communists had in their hands all means of intimidation against people, especially on the youth. The faithful were being ‘disciplined’ everywhere.</p>
<p>&#8220;Communism bathed the entire world in blood and despite this it still had its adherents. And yet, it disintegrated because it controlled everything for too long through lies, force and empty words. I did not end up in jail but I was the last person in Split to receive a passport.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was constantly being eavesdropped&#8230;&#8221; [<a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=945">Source</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Part of the “first” truth that “shall set us free” is to know how the political authorities for religious affairs handled the “crisis” in the mid-eighties. The Croatian journalists, the Medjugorje Franciscans and the visionaries of today are very careful not to reveal us what was at stake at that time.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Let us hear what Filip Simic, deputy minister for religious affairs in Bosnia Herzegovina, said to a British film crew, in September 1986:</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Doesn’t Mr. Simic contradict the core of the accusation against Mgr Zanic of collaboration with communist authorities?</strong></p>
<p><strong>If the communist authorities were welcoming the boost to the economy, and profiting from it, as we have seen in the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1B1Zn4aek&amp;feature=player_embedded#!">video clip</a>, shouldn&#8217;t they have “ordered&#8221; the bishop <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> to &#8220;deny the apparitions and Marian faith”? That was the situation five years after the beginning of the events.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The argument of the accusers, not substantiated with any valid documentation, doesn’t then resist to the facts.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Instead of being a &#8220;collaborator&#8221; of the communist regime, Mgr Zanic may have been rather considered as a potential &#8220;saboteur&#8221; of the government&#8217;s new lucrative activities, in an ailing Yugoslav economy, particularly because of his 1984 firm <em><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/08/15/%E2%80%9Cfor-the-holy-see-medjugorje-is-a-tormenting-dilemma%E2%80%9D-vittorio-messori-%E2%80%93-right-wrong-there-is-no-dilemma-part-2/">Posizione</a>:</em></strong></p>
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<p><strong>We know, however, that Mgr Zanic had a <a href="http://www.osaarchivum.org/files/holdings/300/8/3/text/85-3-82.shtml" class="broken_link">positive but careful attitude, in 1981</a>:<a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/The_Madonna_Embarrasses_Yugoslav_Communists_1981-10-21_Page_1_cor.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1287" title="The Madonna Embarrasses Yugoslav Communists -1981-10-21 - Page-1" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/The_Madonna_Embarrasses_Yugoslav_Communists_1981-10-21_Page_1_cor-231x300.jpg" alt="" width="231" height="300" /></a><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/The_Madonna_Embarrasses_Yugoslav_Communists_1981-10-21_Page_2.jpg"><br />
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<p><strong>&#8220;The main question remains, however, whether it is a subjective experience of children or something supernatural.&#8221; He didn&#8217;t hesitate to defend the visionaries and the Franciscans against the calumnies disseminated by communist journalists and political authorities:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That night Sarajevo TV gave its own explanation of the day&#8217;s events, quoting a press release issued at a meeting of the Citluk commune:</p>
<p>&#8220;We decided that it was necessary to underline that what the priests, Jozo Zovko of Medjugorje, and his colleagues, Ferdo Vlasic, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pavao Zanic, Bishop of Mostar, and other extremists intend and desire is nothing less than to restore the terrorist Ustasa organisation. All of this constitutes the very gravest abuse of religious freedom.</span>&#8220;  [underlined by LB]</p>
<p>&#8220;Bishop Zanic protested in a letter to the Federal President on 1st September. Speaking for himself and the other accused priests, he expressed himself saddened by: &#8220;these irresponsible calumnies and these attacks whose bad taste will in no way facilitate a calm appraisal of the events which have been taking place in Medjugorje. Such behaviour violates fundamental human and civic rights.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: right;">Mary Craig &#8211; <em>Spark From Heaven</em>, 1988, hardcover, p.78</p>
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<p><strong>Finally, part of the “second” truth that “shall set us free” is to acknowledge the real concern of the courageous Pastor that Mgr Zanic was. As evidence, his words captured by the same film crew, in September 1986:</strong></p>
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<div>Bishop Zanic was well aware that pilgrims to Medjugorje had cast him in the role of villain. &#8220;Anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe in the place is dismissed as an atheist,&#8221; he complained. &#8220;People are looking for miracles, and if they can&#8217;t find them they invent them. They&#8217;re trying to prop up their faith with things they know nothing at all about, intangible things. But a great deal of caution is needed: you can&#8217;t use apparitions as a basis for faith. They may prove false &#8211; and then where are you?&#8221;</div>
<div style="text-align: right;">Mary Craig, <em>idem</em>, p. 184</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mgr_Pavao_Zanic_06_Man_Alive_CBC_1988_Madonna_of_Medjugorje_excerpts_for_research_purposes_by_medjupedia_dot_com.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1249" title="Mgr Pavao Zanic - 1986" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mgr_Pavao_Zanic_06_Man_Alive_CBC_1988_Madonna_of_Medjugorje_excerpts_for_research_purposes_by_medjupedia_dot_com-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a><br />
<strong>Anyone who did not believe in the place was &#8220;dismissed as an atheist&#8221;, or &#8212; <a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/1319/medjugorje-critics-parrot-old-communist-lies/">as we have seen recently</a> &#8212; a &#8220;collaborator&#8221; of the atheists/communists according to irresponsible &#8220;Christian&#8221; Medjugorje propagandists who dared tarnish Mgr Zanic&#8217;s memory.</strong></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>Louis Bélanger</strong></div>
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<div><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mgr_Pavao_Zanic_01_Man_Alive_CBC_1988_Madonna_of_Medjugorje_excerpts_for_research_purposes_by_medjupedia_dot_com.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1277 alignright" title="Mgr_Pavao_Zanic_01_Man_Alive_CBC_1988_Madonna_of_Medjugorje_excerpts_for_research_purposes_by_medjupedia_dot_com" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mgr_Pavao_Zanic_01_Man_Alive_CBC_1988_Madonna_of_Medjugorje_excerpts_for_research_purposes_by_medjupedia_dot_com-300x200.jpg" alt="Mgr Pavao Zanic (1986)" width="300" height="200" /></a>&#8220;People seemed unable to understand that his refusal to accept Medjugorje was based on valid objections:</div>
<div>&#8220;I have a responsibility to God, to the Holy See and to my own conscience, to examine this matter thoroughly and discover the truth about it. If in so doing I were to speak against the dictates of my own conscience, I should deserve the terrors of Hell. And if I must suffer for the truth, then so be it.&#8221;</div>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the creation of the Fourth Commission on the Medjugorje events, proponents of the so-called apparitions are busy at desperately manoeuvring to disseminate their own deceptive vulgate and influence the judgment of the experts before the end of the Commission’s work.

Here are the main fallacies --- which I will discuss in the next posts --- found in books, periodicals, blogs, video documentaries, and some articles written recently by a rédacteur working for the Medjugorje Franciscans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the creation of the Fourth Commission on the Medjugorje events, proponents of the so-called apparitions are busy at desperately manoeuvring to disseminate their own deceptive vulgate and influence the judgment of the experts before the end of the Commission’s work.</p>
<p>Here are the main fallacies &#8212; which I will discuss in the next posts &#8212; found in books, periodicals, blogs, video documentaries, and some articles written recently by a <em>rédacteur</em> working for the Medjugorje Franciscans:</p>
<p>1]      The predecessor (Mgr Pavao Zanic) of the present Ordinary of Mostar (Mgr Ratko Peric) has persecuted some Franciscan Friars, especially Frs. Jozo Zovko and Tomislav Vlasic by broadcasting slanderous accusations about them, notably of Fr. Vlasic having fathered a child, “a claim that was soon revealed to be baseless, but none the less has been repeated ever since”. The real father of the said child was a former Franciscan established in the USA, according to Fr. René Laurentin.</p>
<p>2]      Fr. Tomislav Vlasic was not the “spiritual director” of the visionaries.</p>
<p>3]      The Ordinary of Mostar and his predecessor are/were alone negatively and stubbornly biased against the so-called apparitions.</p>
<p>4]      The <em>non constat de supernaturalitate</em> judgment is negative, when coming from Mgr Zanic who had arbitrarily chosen the members of the first two commissions, but “neutral” and not “negative” when maintained by the Yugoslavian Bishops Conference.</p>
<p>5]      The Ordinary of Mostar and his predecessor have been “discarded” by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith regarding the Medjugorje issue.</p>
<p>6]      The changing of Mgr Zanic’s position, from positive at the beginning to negative after January 1982 towards the so-called apparitions, was due to threats against him from the political authorities that made him a collaborator and <em>marionette</em> of the communists;</p>
<p>7]      The so-called apparitions have nothing to do with the Herzegovina affair and should be “separated” from it.</p>
<p>8]      A Church judgement on the authenticity of the apparitions cannot be made as long as they continue.</p>
<p>9]      After his “private” visit to Medjugorje, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, Archbishop of Vienna, excused himself to the Ordinary of Mostar (2010).</p>
<p>10]  Fr. Jozo Zovko has been persecuted by the communists and imprisoned for his “faith” (1981).</p>
<h3>Context of the present post</h3>
<p>Almost four months ago, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/">I reacted</a> to the article “<a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">Medjugorje: Communists against apparitions</a>”, published in <em>La Stampa</em> (2011-09-08) under the heading “Inquiries and interviews”, that perplexed me.</p>
<p>Written by journalist-vaticanist <a href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Tornielli">Andrea Tornielli</a>, <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Andrea_Tornielli.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1112" title="Andrea_Tornielli" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Andrea_Tornielli-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="135" /></a>it conveys the allegation that the Yugoslav secret police have manipulated the former Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic:</p>
<p>-          They supplied him a series of documents that fed the Ordinary’s hostility against the Franciscans of Medjugorje.</p>
<p>-          The said documents directly influenced the bishop’s actions by making him the main tool of the communist regime and the most determined enemy of the Medjugorje events.</p>
<p>-          Bishop Zanic “was willing to accept any document against the Franciscans and against the apparitions, even if of dubious origin.”</p>
<p>-          While the Bishop of Mostar defended the visionaries and the Franciscans at the beginning of the events, the Secret Service heavily influenced the Ordinary’s decision to change completely his position from January 1982.</p>
<p>-          The objectives were to compromise the Bishop and to gather information on “hostile activities” of some monks — Fr. Jozo Zovko, who was said to have had a number of love escapades, being one of the compromised Franciscans.</p>
<p>That piece of journalism, concocted especially by a vaticanist, puzzled me.</p>
<p>My main concern was Mr. Tornielli’s insidious attack against the intellectual, spiritual and pastoral integrity of the former Ordinary of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic, by an interposed <a href="http://www.medjugorje.ws/en/articles/ivan-sesar-tomislav-vlasic/">Croatian Medjugorje propagandist</a>, journalist Zarko Ivkovic.</p>
<p>The Italian journalist didn’t “document” anything, didn’t verify anything: he copied/pasted very serious allegations without granting his readers any factual historical retrospective.</p>
<p>Was Mr. Tornielli so ignorant of the facts concerning Medjugorje that he blackened Mgr Zanic’s integrity and reputation by identifying him as a blind <em>marionette</em> of the Yugoslav communist regime?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7538">The vaticanist was the first commenter</a> of my post, a few hours after its release.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Is a fact that the communist were trying to control and influence Medjugorje phenomenon, and that they were trying to influence bishop Zanic.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t think (and I did not write) Zanic was “a blind marionette of the Yugoslav communist regime”. But I think these documents are important: the direct or indirect influence of the communist regime in Medjugorje is a historical issue, and it needs to be studied.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I did agree partly with his comment but <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7562">justified clearly my position</a>:</p>
<p>-          There seems to be nothing more in <a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">your article in La Stampa</a> and in <a href="http://2.andreatornielli.it/?p=2525">your Blog post</a> that what is found in the <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">book description’s blurb</a> released on the publisher’s website.</p>
<p>-          As far as I have been able to understand from the automatic translation, your interview with Mr. Ivkovic “published in a different article” in the paper edition of <em>La Stampa</em> is neither referenced in the electronic edition nor in your Blog post. Is the international reader not justified to perceive both of your accessible electronic articles — the first one released by <em>La Stampa</em>, the second one on your complete control — as a coherent whole that reveals your position?</p>
<p>-          Have you not used Antonio Socci to back up the attack against Mgr Zanic and his successor, Mgr Peric — thus avoiding a counterbalance that should have been submitted by an objective journalist to <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">Mr. Ivkovic’s agenda supported by Cardinal Schönborn</a> himself, a Medjugorje propagandist?</p>
<p>-          As a vaticanist, would it not have been appropriate to interview the actual Bishop of Mostar who is concerned by those allegations? Or his spokesperson? May I suggest that a well informed critic who is geographically nearer to you, <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/">Marco Corvaglia</a>, could have helped you to explore <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/medjugorje-the-communists-and-the-bishop.html">some discerning points of view</a>, quite different from those you are used to hear <a href="http://holyqueen.altervista.org/medj_eng_index.htm">like the ones of Fr. Livio Fanzaga</a>, the Director of Radio Maria where <a href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Tornielli">you host a monthly tribune</a>?</p>
<p>-          I don’t put into question that the Yugoslav communist regime has tried “to control and influence the Medjugorje phenomenon”, and “influence Bishop Zanic” — we agree on that.</p>
<p>-          My main point is that you convey the allegation that the Secret Service so heavily influenced Mgr Zanic’s decision that he changed completely his position from January 1982 — does the choice of that date point to a specific historical document? — making him a tool of the communist regime, thus its <em>marionette</em> concerning Medjugorje. As if the Ordinary had no legitimate intimate intellectual, spiritual and pastoral motive for the change of his initial spontaneous and positive assessment of the supernatural quality of the Medjugorje events — completely independent of the regime’s political stratagems.</p>
<p>-          That said, I agree with you, dear Mr. Andrea, that “these documents are important: the direct or indirect influence of the communist regime in Medjugorje is a historical issue, and it needs to be studied”, indeed in context with the ins and outs of Bishop Pavao Zanic’s real <em>Posizione</em>. With the same attention and concern that you showed in your acclaimed work in which <a href="http://www.zenit.org/article-19702?l=english">you denounced “the arbitrary diminishment of the figure of Pope Pius XII</a>.”</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Mr. Tornielli did not come back to medjupedia: total silence from his part. I have not been able to verify if he has taken my objections into account.</p>
<p>But the attack against Mgr Zanic, and my reaction, drew the attention of the present Ordinary of Mostar, Mgr Ratko Peric, who <a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=920">published a response</a> that <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/01/bp-peric-defend.html">Richard Chonak</a> translated from <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=919">Italian</a> into <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=931">English</a>. Which in turn gave rise to <a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/4148/bishop-defends-forerunner-on-medjugorje/">Jakob Marschner’s post</a> on <em>Medjugorje Today</em>. It has been also reverberated on diverse blogs critical of Medjugorje by <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/01/bp-peric-defend.html">Richard Chonak</a>, <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/home.html">Marco Corvaglia</a> (<a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/medjugorje-the-communists-and-the-bishop.html">Part1</a> and <a href="http://www.marcocorvaglia.com/medjugorje-en/the-communists-and-the-bishop-part-2.html">Part 2</a>), <a href="http://patrickmadrid.com/debunking-six-untruths-being-pushed-by-medjugorje-promoters/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=debunking-six-untruths-being-pushed-by-medjugorje-promoters">Patrick Madrid</a>, <a href="http://abbey-roads.blogspot.com/2012/01/busted-more-medjugorje-myths-exposed.html">Terry Nelson</a>, <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2012/01/medjugorje-frauds.html?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=medjugorje-frauds">Mark Shea</a>, <a href="http://www.sanctepater.com/2012/01/medjugorje-diocese-of-mostar-duvno.html">Vincenzo</a>.</p>
<p>Mr. Marschner was a few months ahead of Andrea Tornielli when he reported on the Croatian book by Ivkovic et al., in June 2011. His articles had escaped my attention: <em><a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/1341/communists-spied-intensely-on-franciscans/">Communists spied intensely on Franciscans</a></em> and <em><a href="http://www.medjugorjetoday.tv/1319/medjugorje-critics-parrot-old-communist-lies/">Medjugorje critics parrot old communist lies</a></em>.</p>
<p>The grave core of the treacherous attack against Mgr Zanic was there.</p>
<p>Indeed, Mr. Marschner writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>“In an attempt at compromising Medjugorje priest Fr. Tomislav Vlasic, the Communist power-holders of the then Yugoslavia invented slanderous stories about him, claiming he had fathered a child. Though the accusations were proven false long ago, Medjugorje critics still repeat the claim whose Communist origin is now coming to the light in a new documentary book that details how the official Yugoslavia sought to destroy Medjugorje.”</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Rédacteur</em> Marschner continues:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Part of the strategy on behalf of the secret police was informing the then Bishop Pavao Zanic of Mostar about the accusations against Fr. Vlasic. Bishop Zanic reacted by broadcasting the accusations against Fr. Vlasic all around the world – but still the secret document of  November 17th 1987 ends with a detailed proposal for further compromising not only Fr. Jozo Zovko, but also the Bishop.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In short, according to Mr. Marschner’s decoding, the communists invented the story that Fr. Vlasic had fathered a child with a nun and informed Mgr Zanic who disseminated the slanderous story all around the world, without any verification.</p>
<p>Is that all true or simply a gross attempt to rehabilitate Fr. Vlasic at the expense of Mgr Zanic? Aren&#8217;t we left here with the terrible alleged <em>constat</em> that the Ordinary of Mostar lied outrageously and that Fr. Tomislav Vlasic was &#8220;innocent&#8221;?</p>
<h3>Who fabricated the story about the father of the nun&#8217;s child? The &#8220;Communist power-holders&#8221; or Fr. René Laurentin?</h3>
<p>According to my sources and documentation, the real story is quite different and very serious. <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2010/10/20/medjugorje-the-grand-concealment-2-three-more-days-duplicity-rene-laurentin/">Fr. René Laurentin</a> would be the protagonist of a fabricated story intended to protect the said Franciscan and &#8220;save&#8221; the Medjugorje &#8220;apparitions&#8221;.</p>
<p>Back in time, we remember that Fr. René Laurentin had “covered” a similar story in the following manner.</p>
<blockquote><p>“On November 28, 1985, the three priests of the parish (Ivan Dugandzic, Tomislav Pervan and Pero) were called to a meet­ing at the Bishop&#8217;s house in Mostar, along with the three seers, Maria, Ivan, and young Jakov (who was then 14 years old) , as well as Sister Janja, responsible for the community of sis­ters at Medjugorje, (today transferred as vice-provincial). The Bishop announced an accusation of misconduct against one of the Franciscan priests, formerly attached to the parish. The astonished guests asked, &#8220;What has this to do with us?&#8221; since the accusation referred to a period many years prior. This suspicion declared against an unsuspecting and presumably innocent man, could not have surprised them more.</p>
<p>&#8220;The next day, the Bishop of Mostar presented the same re­port to the Commission. They also were very astonished and asked, &#8220;Why are you bringing this up in conjunction with these apparitions?&#8221; In the days before and after, the Bishop mentioned the same accusation to several of his visitors. Some were made to feel this constituted a decisive argument against the apparitions.</p>
<p>&#8220;This apparently ill-founded accusation seemed to bring about a new level of discord between the Franciscans and the Bishop. This latent hostility developed years ago regarding the right of authority for certain parishes and areas of the country, and which had culminated with the suspension of two Francis­cans, by the Bishop, a few years ago.”</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: right;">[Laurentin, René (1987) - <em>The Apparitions at Medjugorje prolonged – A Merciful Delay for a World in Danger?</em>,Milford,Ohio: The Riehle Foundation, p. 40-41]</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Unfortunately, the English translation of the French booklet is shortened into three paragraphs, while Laurentin’s original French story is contained in 29 paragraphs that have been concealed from view of monolingual English readers. [to be continued]</p>
<p>Cordially,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>Medjupedia: Bishop of Mostar responds to insidious attack by Croatian journalists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Bélanger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have already informed our readers about an insidious attack by Croatian journalists against the late Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic. The serious charge has been uncritically transmitted by journalist-vaticanist Andrea Tornielli who initiated &#8212; but abruptly interrupted &#8212; an exchange in our commentaries section. A few days ago, the Bishop of Mostar, Mgr [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have already <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/">informed</a> our readers about an <a href="http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/strogo-povjerljivo-kako-je-udba-gusila-medugorje-clanak-301276">insidious attack by Croatian journalists</a> against the late Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Pavao Zanic.</p>
<p>The serious charge has been uncritically <a href="http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/medjugorje-7819/">transmitted</a> by <a href="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Tornielli">journalist-vaticanist</a> Andrea Tornielli who <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7538">initiated</a> &#8212; but abruptly interrupted &#8212; an <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7546">exchange</a> in our <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/2011/09/19/journalistvaticanist-andrea-tornielli-influent-straight-man-in-the-medjugorje-drama-1-his-insinuative-attack-against-mgr-zanic/comment-page-1/#comment-7562">commentaries</a> section.</p>
<p>A few days ago, the Bishop of Mostar, Mgr Ratko Peric, has <a href="http://www.cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=920">published a response</a> that <a href="http://catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/2012/01/bp-peric-defend.html">Richard Chonak</a> translated from <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=919">Italian</a> into <a href="http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&amp;vijest=931">English</a>.</p>
<p>We will be back next week with a follow-up of the first article in presenting the real positions of Mgr Zanic caught on audiotape during the two interviews graciously given in French by the Ordinary of Mostar, in January 1985.</p>
<p>Cordially,</p>
<p>Louis Bélanger</p>
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		<title>A blessed and merry Christmas from Medjupedia…</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>To all Medjupedia readers, </strong></em></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>with my gratitude for their encouragement and prayers, </strong></em></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>a blessed and merry Christmas</strong></em></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://sjbg.net/index.php?module=Mediashare&amp;func=browse&amp;aid=19"><img class="aligncenter" title="La Nativité - Claudio Pastro" src="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/La-Nativité.jpg" alt="Claudio Pastro est un artiste brésilien contemporain.  Ce panneau est surprenant, puisqu’il ne se contente pas de mettre en scène la nativité, mais il met en image, sur cette fresque, une grande partie des mystères de la vie du Christ jusqu’au début de sa vie publique. " width="550" height="370" /></a><em><strong></strong></em></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>centred on the <a href="http://en.louisbelanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/La-Nativité_vignette.jpg">beginning</a> and unfolding of a <a href="http://sjbg.net/index.php?module=Mediashare&amp;func=browse&amp;aid=19">profound mystery</a>.</strong></em></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: left;"><em>Louis Bélanger</em></h3>
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